Veritas-bu

[Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-25 23:29:35
Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix
From: Anderson.Mccammont at morganstanley.com (McCammont, Anderson (IT))
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:29:35 +0100
No - changing the media id generation rule (MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS in
vm.conf) affects the media id.  Changing the barcode rules (potentially)
changes the media type and volume pool.  Existing tapes won't be
reallocated to a new pool on a barcode change - if they did then every
inventory of the library would break netbackup.  vmupdate(1M) only
assigns attributes to new media.
 
If we could put regexps into vmrule e.g.
 
(made up vmrule -listall -b)
barcode          media    volume         max mounts/
tag              type     pool             cleanings description
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
*CU$             HC2_CLN  None                    50 LTO Cleaning Tapes
CLN              DLT2_CLN None                    20 DLT Cleaning Tapes

*L4$             HCART4   Scratch                  0 LTO4 media
*L3$             HCART3   Scratch                  0 LTO3 media
*L2$             HCART2   Scratch                  0 LTO2 media
<NONE>           DEFAULT  None                     0 
<DEFAULT>        DEFAULT  Scratch                  0 ------


then the world would be a better place.  A trivial code change I'd bet
and a feature request that's been outstanding for several years.
 

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From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Bobby
Williams
Sent: 25 April 2007 18:21
To: McCammont, Anderson (IT); 'Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)';
'Spearman, David'; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


You can't change the bar code rules like that in mid stream.  It would
change the media id of every tape already in the library and put every
existing tape in scratch.
 
You are going to either have to partition the drives in separate
partitions (Yuk), or just pick your default tape type and add all of the
other types manually (not a big deal).  Existing tapes don't use the bar
code rules anyway, they are already known.  It is only NEW to the robot
tapes that need to have a bar code rule.
 
I have 2 i2K's with both LTO-3 and LTO-2.  No big deal.  I have them in
the same partition.  I use the LTO-3's mostly for tape to tape
duplication for offsite (LTO-2 duplicated to LTO-3 works great).  Most
of the clients can't push data fast enough to feed the LTO-3 tapes.
(Yes, I do multiplex some mid range x3 to feed tapes data).  I use
Staging disks to catch the really slow ones and do disk to tape staging
to the LTO-3 tapes.  If you put the LTO-3's in their own partition, you
could not use any tape duplication between partitions.
 
Another major headache that I have at a site with 2 separate libraries
(both ADIC 1k's) is when one runs out of media, everything fails with 96
errors and then moves to the other physical library.  Not a big issue
until failure stats are looked at.
 




Bobby Williams 
2205 Peterson Drive 
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
423-296-8200 

 


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From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
McCammont, Anderson (IT)
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:24 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor); Spearman, David;
veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


If you do this you need to take part of your six digit barcode range and
dedicate it to the particular media type.  
 
It's sad that Netbackup doesn't support proper regexps in the barcode
rules so that the 'L2', 'L3' (presumably) 'L4' last two digits of the
barcode can be used to select the media type.  We've had a feature
request in for years for this and it's gone nowhere (unless 6.x does it
and our rep hasn't mentioned it).
 
<rant>  why's there no feedback on feature requests - even when they do
make it into a release you're left to scrabble round to see if it made
it in there.  </rant>

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From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan (Contractor)
Sent: 25 April 2007 03:42
To: Spearman, David; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


Use barcode rules and media types.  LTO2 media can be hcart2 and LTO3
can be hcart3 (I think hcart stands for Half-Inch Cartridge.)  NBU will
never put a hcart2 tape into an hcart3 tape device.  TO NBU that's as
incompatible as having LTO and DLT in the same library.
 
-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
Spearman, David
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:17 PM
To: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


 

        We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon.
At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion
cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3
tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives
while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination
of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired
tapes just return to the scratch pool which would make them available to
anything.
         
        present setup
         
        W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape drives
allowed)
        W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape drives
allowed)
        W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 
         
        David Spearman
        County of Henrico
         
         

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