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[Veritas-bu] Alternate client restores on NDMP !

2003-05-01 17:54:04
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Alternate client restores on NDMP !
From: jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com (Kennedy, Jeffrey)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 14:54:04 -0700
Ok, just to make sure I (and the Original Poster) get it.

In NBU 4.5 the Solaris/Windows NDMP server option will only move data,
not act as a destination.  So there is no way to use NBU to do a restore
of NDMP data to a non-NDMP host.

~JK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Kappel [mailto:steve.kappel AT veritas DOT com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 6:39 AM
> To: Steven.Bally AT radisys DOT com; karunanidhis AT hotmail DOT com; Kennedy,
Jeffrey
> Cc: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Alternate client restores on NDMP !
> 
> The NDMP data stream format is not determined by NetBackup.  It
> is determined by the NAS device performing the backup and is
> therefore not necessarily portable to any other NAS (or non-NAS)
> device.
> 
> NDMP has two major agents, one is the DATA agent and the other
> is the MOVER/TAPE agent.  The MOVER/TAPE agent performs the
> tape operations and streaming.  The DATA agent performs the
> backup or restore.  In 4.5 NetBackup we added the feature
> "Remote NDMP" which is only the MOVER/TAPE agent.  It does
> not contain a DATA agent.
> 
> So you can use NBU 4.5 Remote NDMP on Solaris & Windows to
> operate a tape drive.  It is exactly like the tape side of
> an NDMP 3-way between two NAS devices.
> 
> Because the actual data format varies from NAS vendor to
> NAS vendor, NetBackup (and likely any other NDMP backup
> application) does not create or restore NDMP data streams.
> You cannot restore an NDMP backup to a non-NDMP (DATA agent)
> platform using NetBackup.
> 
> Some NAS vendors support compatibility between their data
> format and external formats.  For example, NetApp uses a
> variant of dump; except for the NetApp extensions, Solaris
> ufsrestore can restore it.  However, this is strictly a
> manual operation outside of NetBackup.  Most other NAS
> vendors use tar/cpio/pax/dump or variations.  In short,
> you can only depend on vendor X to/from vendor X.
> 
> The NDMP specification only defines the control
> mechanisms.
> 
> I hope this clears up this complicated topic.
> 
> 
> >Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Alternate client restores on NDMP !
> >From: "Kennedy, Jeffrey" <jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com>
> >To: <Steven.Bally AT radisys DOT com>, "Karun Subramanian"
> <karunanidhis AT hotmail DOT com>
> >Cc: <Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>,
> <veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
> >Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:49:44 -0700
> >
> >That is almost correct.  Pre-4.5 it was not possible at all.
Post-4.5
> >it may be possible if you can make the Windows host look like an NDMP
> >server.  I don't know the details but 4.5+ is supposed to allow a
> >Solaris/Windows server look like an NDMP server to allow NDMP backups
> >across the network to the servers drives instead of using direct
attach
> >drives.  This can help with drive sharing but at the cost of
> >performance.
> >
> >
> >
> >You have always been able to restore an NDMP backup to a Solaris host
> >and then move the data over to Windows if needed.  Of course, you do
> >this without NBU pre-4.5, but it's possible.
> >
> >
> >
> >~JK
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Steven.Bally AT radisys DOT com [mailto:Steven.Bally AT radisys DOT 
> >com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:21 AM
> >To: Karun Subramanian
> >Cc: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu;
> >veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> >Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Alternate client restores on NDMP !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Karun,
> >
> >>From my understanding with Veritas, you cannot restore a NDMP client
to
> >a Windows box.
> >
> >Others may know better than I, but that is what I was told.
> >
> >Steve Bally
> >Network Administrator
> >RadiSys Corporation
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> >"Karun Subramanian" <karunanidhis AT hotmail DOT com>
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> > 04/29/2003 11:00 AM
> >
> >
> >        To:        Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> >        cc:
> >        Subject:        [Veritas-bu] Alternalte client restores on
NDMP
> >!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi Folks !
> >Can I not restore a file from NDMP backup to a Windows NT server and
> >vice
> >versa? When I tried to restore a file in a NDMP backup to a Windows
> >server,
> >it complained the "Path is not recongized". Any idea??
> >
> >Thanks,
> >- Karun
> >
> >
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