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2002-01-25 10:27:49
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?
From: BrochF AT europe.stortek DOT com (Brochart, Fabrice)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:27:49 -0000
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                Andrew,

I don't understand what you mean.

I said that STK's library's Autocleaning Feature don't use TapeALert
Feature, that's just what I want to mean.

And NBU, since NB_34_1, know how to do when a drive is cleaning by the
library.

Fabrice

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Andrew Shinkarev [mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com]
Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 15:21
=C0 : Brochart, Fabrice
Cc : Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Objet : Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?


On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:41:40PM -0000, Brochart, Fabrice wrote:
Fabrice,=20


Before 34_1 patch NetBackup couldn't recognize a cleaning tape=20
in a tape drive and library cleaning it and down'ed the tape drive.=20

For Tape Alert working you need to have at least NB_34_1 and=20
FW 106 on tape drives.=20

TapeAlert feature was developed back in 98 or even early,=20
but was known for a quite a bit time.=20
And took Veritas at least 3 years to make it working.=20
It's still semiworking. NetBackup drops cleaning request after=20
30 minutes. So if you are getting soft errors but still able to run
backup, the tape drive won't be cleaned.=20
 =20
L700 air flow design is below my expectations about this great=20
product. Negative pressure and non-filtered air makes it a big=20
vacuum cleaner and effective kills my tapes in enormous amount.=20
Dirty leaders, dusty tape drives and no maintenance required=20
DLT tape drives make my life thriling. =20
Suggestion to clean my computer rooms on regular basis is OK,=20
but old ATL library I got has positive pressure and=20
filtering air it pulls inside, and tape drives are more cleaner=20
being in the same environment three times longer than inside my L700s.
=20

Thanks,=20
Andrew



>               Andrew,
>=20
> DLT drives from STK are the same from others, same =B5code etc.
>=20
> L700's autocleaning don't use TapeAlert Feature but internal cable
(library
> interface).
>=20
> Fabrice
>=20
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Andrew Shinkarev [mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com]
> Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 14:17
> =C0 : Brochart, Fabrice
> Cc : Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Objet : Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 09:24:55AM -0000, Brochart, Fabrice wrote:
>=20
> TapeAlert feature didn't work prior NB_34_1 for DLT tape drives from=20
> STK.=20
> =20
> >             Hi All,
> >=20
> > You're right Andrew, but Mike need to apply NB_341_1 (NT) or =
NB_34_1
> (Unix)
> > to take advantage of Autocleaning feature From the L700.
> >=20
> > http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/237386.htm
> >=20
> > Best regards.
> >=20
> > Fabrice
> >=20
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Andrew Wilkin [mailto:Andrew.Wilkin AT ditm.nsw.gov DOT au]
> > Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 01:37
> > =C0 : 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
> > Objet : [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?
> >=20
> >=20
> > Mike,
> >=20
> > Have a look under "Device Management -> Drives -> Drive Cleaning ->
Action
> > -> Change Cleaning Frequency"
> > Make sure that the two dialog arears are blank.=20
> >=20
> > On your Tape Library make sure it is configured to do the cleaning. =
It
> seems
> > to be "better" that the hardware manages it's cleaning rather than
> > NetBackup.
> >=20
> > Regards=20
> >=20
> > Andrew Wilkin=20
> > Computer Systems Analyst=20
> >=20
> > Department of Information Technology & Management=20
> > Land & Property Information - New South Wales=20
> >=20
> > Panorama Ave=20
> > BATHURST, NSW, 2795, AUSTRALIA=20
> >=20
> > Ph: (02) 6332 8397=20
> > Fx: (02) 6332 8457=20
> > E-mail: Andrew.Wilkin AT ditm.nsw.gov DOT au=20
> > WEB: www.lpi.nsw.gov.au=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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> --=20
> ----
> Andrew Shinkarev
> Network Systems Specialist
> Abbott Laboratories
> (847) 9387559
> shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com

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Andrew Shinkarev
Network Systems Specialist
Abbott Laboratories
(847) 9387559
shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com

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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>Andrew,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I don't understand what you mean.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I said that STK's library's Autocleaning Feature =
don't use TapeALert Feature, that's just what I want to mean.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>And NBU, since NB_34_1, know how to do when a drive =
is cleaning by the library.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Fabrice</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Message d'origine-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>De : Andrew Shinkarev [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com">mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott 
DOT com=
</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 15:21</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=C0 : Brochart, Fabrice</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc : Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Objet : Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see =
this?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:41:40PM -0000, Brochart, =
Fabrice wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Fabrice, </FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Before 34_1 patch NetBackup couldn't recognize a =
cleaning tape </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>in a tape drive and library cleaning it and down'ed =
the tape drive. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>For Tape Alert working you need to have at least =
NB_34_1 and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>FW 106 on tape drives. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>TapeAlert feature was developed back in 98 or even =
early, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>but was known for a quite a bit time. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>And took Veritas at least 3 years to make it =
working. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>It's still semiworking. NetBackup drops cleaning =
request after </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>30 minutes. So if you are getting soft errors but =
still able to run</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>backup, the tape drive won't be cleaned. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>L700 air flow design is below my expectations about =
this great </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>product. Negative pressure and non-filtered air =
makes it a big </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>vacuum cleaner and effective kills my tapes in =
enormous amount. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dirty leaders, dusty tape drives and no maintenance =
required </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>DLT tape drives make my life thriling.&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Suggestion to clean my computer rooms on regular =
basis is OK, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>but old ATL library I got has positive pressure and =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>filtering air it pulls inside, and tape drives are =
more cleaner </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>being in the same environment three times longer =
than inside my L700s.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andrew</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Andrew,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; DLT drives from STK are the same from others, =
same =B5code etc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; L700's autocleaning don't use TapeAlert Feature =
but internal cable (library</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; interface).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Fabrice</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Message d'origine-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; De : Andrew Shinkarev [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com">mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott 
DOT com=
</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 =
14:17</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =C0 : Brochart, Fabrice</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc : Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Objet : Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see =
this?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 09:24:55AM -0000, =
Brochart, Fabrice wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; TapeAlert feature didn't work prior NB_34_1 for =
DLT tape drives from </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; STK. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hi All,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; You're right Andrew, but Mike need to =
apply NB_341_1 (NT) or NB_34_1</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; (Unix)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; to take advantage of Autocleaning feature =
>From the L700.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/237386.htm"; =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/237386.htm</A></F=
ONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Best regards.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Fabrice</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; -----Message d'origine-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; De : Andrew Wilkin [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Andrew.Wilkin AT ditm.nsw.gov DOT au">mailto:Andrew.Wilkin@ditm.=
nsw.gov.au</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 =
01:37</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; =C0 : =
'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Objet : [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see =
this?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Mike,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Have a look under &quot;Device Management =
-&gt; Drives -&gt; Drive Cleaning -&gt; Action</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; -&gt; Change Cleaning =
Frequency&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Make sure that the two dialog arears are =
blank. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; On your Tape Library make sure it is =
configured to do the cleaning. It</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; seems</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; to be &quot;better&quot; that the hardware =
manages it's cleaning rather than</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; NetBackup.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Regards </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Andrew Wilkin </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Computer Systems Analyst </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Department of Information Technology &amp; =
Management </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Land &amp; Property Information - New =
South Wales </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Panorama Ave </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; BATHURST, NSW, 2795, AUSTRALIA </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Ph: (02) 6332 8397 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Fx: (02) 6332 8457 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; E-mail: Andrew.Wilkin AT ditm.nsw.gov DOT au =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; WEB: www.lpi.nsw.gov.au </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Andrew Shinkarev</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Network Systems Specialist</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Abbott Laboratories</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; (847) 9387559</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andrew Shinkarev</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Network Systems Specialist</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Abbott Laboratories</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(847) 9387559</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com</FONT>
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