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This is true. For tape Alert to work *correctly* with an STK robot you =
need
NB_34_2. Otherwise alerts won't be intercepted/Recognized by NB. Tape =
Alert
may work fine on the robot and your drives will be cleaned, but Veritas =
will
down a drive that is being cleaned if it attempts to use it, since it
doesn't recognize the alert notification that the drive is currently
cleaning.
=20
A clarification though, STK's Technical alert on this only lists the =
"L"
series robots, but I believe this works the same for all STK robots, as
Veritas just doesn't recognize the alerts no matter the robot type and =
I
can't imagine this working any differently for the older robots either.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brochart, Fabrice [mailto:BrochF AT europe.stortek DOT com]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:28 AM
To: 'Andrew Shinkarev'
Cc: 'Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?
Andrew,=20
I don't understand what you mean.=20
I said that STK's library's Autocleaning Feature don't use TapeALert
Feature, that's just what I want to mean.=20
And NBU, since NB_34_1, know how to do when a drive is cleaning by the
library.=20
Fabrice=20
-----Message d'origine-----=20
De : Andrew Shinkarev [ mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com
<mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com> ]=20
Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 15:21=20
=C0 : Brochart, Fabrice=20
Cc : Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
Objet : Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?=20
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:41:40PM -0000, Brochart, Fabrice wrote:=20
Fabrice,=20
Before 34_1 patch NetBackup couldn't recognize a cleaning tape=20
in a tape drive and library cleaning it and down'ed the tape drive.=20
For Tape Alert working you need to have at least NB_34_1 and=20
FW 106 on tape drives.=20
TapeAlert feature was developed back in 98 or even early,=20
but was known for a quite a bit time.=20
And took Veritas at least 3 years to make it working.=20
It's still semiworking. NetBackup drops cleaning request after=20
30 minutes. So if you are getting soft errors but still able to run=20
backup, the tape drive won't be cleaned.=20
=20
L700 air flow design is below my expectations about this great=20
product. Negative pressure and non-filtered air makes it a big=20
vacuum cleaner and effective kills my tapes in enormous amount.=20
Dirty leaders, dusty tape drives and no maintenance required=20
DLT tape drives make my life thriling. =20
Suggestion to clean my computer rooms on regular basis is OK,=20
but old ATL library I got has positive pressure and=20
filtering air it pulls inside, and tape drives are more cleaner=20
being in the same environment three times longer than inside my L700s.=20
=20
Thanks,=20
Andrew=20
> Andrew,=20
>=20
> DLT drives from STK are the same from others, same =B5code etc.=20
>=20
> L700's autocleaning don't use TapeAlert Feature but internal cable
(library=20
> interface).=20
>=20
> Fabrice=20
>=20
> -----Message d'origine-----=20
> De : Andrew Shinkarev [ mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com
<mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com> ]=20
> Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 14:17=20
> =C0 : Brochart, Fabrice=20
> Cc : Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
> Objet : Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?=20
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 09:24:55AM -0000, Brochart, Fabrice wrote:=20
>=20
> TapeAlert feature didn't work prior NB_34_1 for DLT tape drives from=20
> STK.=20
> =20
> > Hi All,=20
> >=20
> > You're right Andrew, but Mike need to apply NB_341_1 (NT) or =
NB_34_1=20
> (Unix)=20
> > to take advantage of Autocleaning feature From the L700.=20
> >=20
> > http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/237386.htm
<http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/237386.htm> =20
> >=20
> > Best regards.=20
> >=20
> > Fabrice=20
> >=20
> > -----Message d'origine-----=20
> > De : Andrew Wilkin [ mailto:Andrew.Wilkin AT ditm.nsw.gov DOT au
<mailto:Andrew.Wilkin AT ditm.nsw.gov DOT au> ]=20
> > Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 01:37=20
> > =C0 : 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'=20
> > Objet : [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Mike,=20
> >=20
> > Have a look under "Device Management -> Drives -> Drive Cleaning ->
Action=20
> > -> Change Cleaning Frequency"=20
> > Make sure that the two dialog arears are blank.=20
> >=20
> > On your Tape Library make sure it is configured to do the cleaning. =
It=20
> seems=20
> > to be "better" that the hardware manages it's cleaning rather than=20
> > NetBackup.=20
> >=20
> > Regards=20
> >=20
> > Andrew Wilkin=20
> > Computer Systems Analyst=20
> >=20
> > Department of Information Technology & Management=20
> > Land & Property Information - New South Wales=20
> >=20
> > Panorama Ave=20
> > BATHURST, NSW, 2795, AUSTRALIA=20
> >=20
> > Ph: (02) 6332 8397=20
> > Fx: (02) 6332 8457=20
> > E-mail: Andrew.Wilkin AT ditm.nsw.gov DOT au=20
> > WEB: www.lpi.nsw.gov.au=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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>=20
> --=20
> ----=20
> Andrew Shinkarev=20
> Network Systems Specialist=20
> Abbott Laboratories=20
> (847) 9387559=20
> shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com=20
--=20
----=20
Andrew Shinkarev=20
Network Systems Specialist=20
Abbott Laboratories=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D845522419-25012002>This=20
is true. For tape Alert to work *correctly* with an STK robot you need =
NB_34_2.=20
Otherwise alerts won't be intercepted/Recognized by NB. Tape Alert may =
work fine=20
on the robot and your drives will be cleaned, but Veritas will down a =
drive that=20
is being cleaned if it attempts to use it, since it doesn't =
recognize the=20
alert notification that the drive is currently =
cleaning.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D845522419-25012002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D845522419-25012002>A=20
clarification though, STK's Technical alert on this only lists the "L" =
series=20
robots, but I believe this works the same for all STK robots, as =
Veritas just=20
doesn't recognize the alerts no matter the robot type and I can't =
imagine this=20
working any differently for the older robots =
either.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Brochart, Fabrice =
[mailto:BrochF AT europe.stortek DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January =
25, 2002=20
9:28 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Andrew Shinkarev'<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
'Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Veritas-bu] RE:=20
Did anyone see this?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<P> =20
<FONT =
size=3D2>Andrew,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>I don't understand what you mean.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>I said that STK's library's Autocleaning Feature =
don't use=20
TapeALert Feature, that's just what I want to mean.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>And NBU, since NB_34_1, know how to do when a drive =
is=20
cleaning by the library.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Fabrice</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>-----Message d'origine-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>De :=20
Andrew Shinkarev [<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com">mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott
DOT com=
</A>]</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 15:21</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>=C0 : Brochart, Fabrice</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Cc :=20
Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Objet : =
Re:=20
[Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 01:41:40PM -0000, Brochart, =
Fabrice=20
wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Fabrice, </FONT></P><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Before 34_1 patch NetBackup couldn't recognize a =
cleaning tape=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>in a tape drive and library cleaning it and =
down'ed=20
the tape drive. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>For Tape Alert working you need to have at least =
NB_34_1 and=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>FW 106 on tape drives. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>TapeAlert feature was developed back in 98 or even =
early,=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>but was known for a quite a bit time. =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>And took Veritas at least 3 years to make it working. =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>It's still semiworking. NetBackup drops cleaning request =
after=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>30 minutes. So if you are getting soft =
errors but=20
still able to run</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>backup, the tape drive =
won't be=20
cleaned. </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2> </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>L700 air flow=20
design is below my expectations about this great </FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>product. Negative pressure and non-filtered air makes it a =
big=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>vacuum cleaner and effective kills my tapes =
in=20
enormous amount. </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>Dirty leaders, dusty tape =
drives and=20
no maintenance required </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>DLT tape drives =
make my life=20
thriling. </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>Suggestion to clean my =
computer rooms=20
on regular basis is OK, </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>but old ATL library =
I got has=20
positive pressure and </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>filtering air it =
pulls inside,=20
and tape drives are more cleaner </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>being in =
the same=20
environment three times longer than inside my L700s.</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2> </FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Thanks, </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>Andrew</FONT> =
</P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=3D2>> =20
Andrew,</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> DLT drives from STK are =
the same from=20
others, same =B5code etc.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> L700's autocleaning don't use TapeAlert Feature but =
internal cable=20
(library</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> interface).</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>>=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> Fabrice</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> -----Message d'origine-----</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> De : Andrew Shinkarev [<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com">mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott
DOT com=
</A>]</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>> Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 =
14:17</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> =C0 : Brochart, Fabrice</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
Cc :=20
Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
Objet : Re:=20
[Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see this?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>>=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> On Fri, =
Jan 25, 2002=20
at 09:24:55AM -0000, Brochart, Fabrice wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>>=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> TapeAlert feature didn't work prior =
NB_34_1 for=20
DLT tape drives from </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> STK. =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =
=20
Hi All,</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > You're right =
Andrew, but=20
Mike need to apply NB_341_1 (NT) or NB_34_1</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>>=20
(Unix)</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > to take advantage of =
Autocleaning=20
feature From the L700.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> > <A =
href=3D"http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/237386.htm"=20
=
target=3D_blank>http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/237386.htm</A></FON=
T>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Best =
regards.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>> >=20
Fabrice</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>> >=20
-----Message d'origine-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > De : =
Andrew=20
Wilkin [<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Andrew.Wilkin AT ditm.nsw.gov DOT au">mailto:Andrew.Wilkin@ditm.=
nsw.gov.au</A>]</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Envoy=E9 : vendredi 25 janvier 2002 =
01:37</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =C0 : =
'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Objet : [Veritas-bu] RE: Did anyone see=20
this?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>> >=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Mike,</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>> >=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Have a look under "Device =
Management ->=20
Drives -> Drive Cleaning -> Action</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>> >=20
-> Change Cleaning Frequency"</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =
Make sure=20
that the two dialog arears are blank. </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
>=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > On your Tape Library make sure it =
is=20
configured to do the cleaning. It</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
seems</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>> > to be "better" that the hardware manages =
it's=20
cleaning rather than</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =
NetBackup.</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =
Regards=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
> Andrew=20
Wilkin </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Computer Systems Analyst=20
</FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
> Department=20
of Information Technology & Management </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>> >=20
Land & Property Information - New South Wales </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>>=20
> </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Panorama Ave =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> > BATHURST, NSW, 2795, AUSTRALIA </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>>=20
> </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > Ph: (02) 6332 8397 =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> > Fx: (02) 6332 8457 </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> =
> E-mail:=20
Andrew.Wilkin AT ditm.nsw.gov DOT au </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =
WEB:=20
www.lpi.nsw.gov.au </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> > =
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size=3D2>> > </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>> >=20
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