Considering the difficulty most technical folks have with getting a good
handle on how the management classes with its four different variables and
how they affect restores and what "incremental forever" really means, I
*really* doubt that most sales people do anything to digest how it works
other than how to spin it to unsuspecting prey!!
(YMMV)

-lisa
(Two quotes that pertain here... I think I saw these on list participant's
sig)

"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity."
-- Harlan Ellison

"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer
shelf life."
 --Frank Zappa




                    Jim Taylor
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                    02:14 PM
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This is typical of how Veritas sales people attack TSM.  I had a Veritas
sales rep try to equate 'Incremental forever' with 'Restore forever'.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Bassi [mailto:jbassi AT IHWY DOT COM]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:10 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: VERITAS BMR (was CA - Brightstore Resource Manager for TSM)


Lisa, at least the CA people are smart enough to know when they are
beat.

I had a customer here in the Bay Area call VERITAS to have a
presentation on BMR.  The response from VERITAS was that the only way
this customer could use BMR is if they moved off TSM and used NetBackup
exclusively.

Has anyone else experienced this?  I thought VERITAS was going to push
this product's integration with TSM, not use the purchase of The Kernel
Group to pouch TSM accounts!


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Joshua S. Bassi
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