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Ahhhhh! Thanks! Glad to get saved from THAT mistake!
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From: David A. Chapa [mailto:david AT datastaff DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Price, Michael
Cc: 'adriaan.mosseveld AT bt DOT com'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Re : bpbackupdb specific tape
if you
tpreq -ev GOODBACKUPTAPE -d dlt -p NetBackup -f /tmp/tp
then perform
bpbackupdb -tpath /tmp/tp /usr/openv/netbackup/db \
/usr/openv/volmgr/database
it will OVERWRITE your good backup tape. It will not
check the headers, it will not warn you it will not
remove it from the NBU database. What it will do, is
hose you should you ever try to do a restore.
TRUST ME I KNOW...I had a client who wrote their own
dup scripts, only to find out that when there was a
reason to recall the tapes, their script used one of
the same NBU tapes for the Database backup. The data
wasn't there, but the database backup was...
not good for the heart, blood pressure, or vision.
David
Quoting "Price, Michael" <MPrice AT dantis DOT com>:
>
> Isn't the only objection to putting a db backup
on a normal backup
> tape that the backup won't contain the info about
that very backup job?
> Otherwise, what difference does it make?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: adriaan.mosseveld AT bt DOT com
[mailto:adriaan.mosseveld AT bt DOT com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:35 AM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Re : bpbackupdb specific tape
>
>
> The bpbackupdb command is not hardcoded to expect
tapes from the netbackup
> pool - we use a separate pool (netbackupdb) for
database backups from our
> offsiting routines to prevent any possible problems
with routine db
> backups.
> I would confirm as Rob Worman did that you should,
under no circumstances,
> try to put a db backup onto a normal backup tape
(trashed data methinks).
>
>
> Adriaan Mosseveld
>
> _______________________________________________
> Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-
bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>
http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-
bu
>
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
David A. Chapa
Consulting Manager
DataStaff, Inc.
847 413 1144
http://www.consulting.datastaff.com
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<P> <FONT SIZE=2>Ahhhhh!
Thanks! Glad to get saved from THAT mistake!</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: David A. Chapa [<A HREF="mailto:david AT datastaff DOT
com">mailto:david AT datastaff DOT com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:52 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Price, Michael</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Cc: 'adriaan.mosseveld AT bt DOT com'; veritas-bu AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Re : bpbackupdb specific tape</FONT>
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<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>if you </FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>tpreq -ev GOODBACKUPTAPE -d dlt -p NetBackup -f /tmp/tp</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>then perform </FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>bpbackupdb -tpath /tmp/tp /usr/openv/netbackup/db \</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>/usr/openv/volmgr/database</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>it will OVERWRITE your good backup tape. It will
not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>check the headers, it will not warn you it will not </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>remove it from the NBU database. What it will do, is
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>hose you should you ever try to do a restore.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>TRUST ME I KNOW...I had a client who wrote their own </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>dup scripts, only to find out that when there was a
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>reason to recall the tapes, their script used one of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the same NBU tapes for the Database backup. The data
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>wasn't there, but the database backup was...</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>not good for the heart, blood pressure, or vision.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>David</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Quoting "Price, Michael" <MPrice AT dantis DOT
com>:</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Isn't the only objection
to putting a db backup </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>on a normal backup</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> tape that the backup won't contain the info about </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>that very backup job?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Otherwise, what difference does it make?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: adriaan.mosseveld AT bt DOT com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>[<A HREF="mailto:adriaan.mosseveld AT bt DOT
com">mailto:adriaan.mosseveld AT bt DOT com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:35 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Re : bpbackupdb specific tape</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> The bpbackupdb command is not hardcoded to expect </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>tapes from the netbackup</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> pool - we use a separate pool (netbackupdb) for </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>database backups from our</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> offsiting routines to prevent any possible problems
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>with routine db</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> backups.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I would confirm as Rob Worman did that you should, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>under no circumstances,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> try to put a db backup onto a normal backup tape </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>(trashed data methinks).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Adriaan Mosseveld</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> _______________________________________________</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>David A. Chapa</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Consulting Manager</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>DataStaff, Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>847 413 1144</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2><A HREF="http://www.consulting.datastaff.com";
TARGET="_blank">http://www.consulting.datastaff.com</A></FONT>
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