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Re: [Bacula-users] Fedora 16 - RHEL 5/6 Bacula RPM repository

2011-12-21 08:50:44
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Fedora 16 - RHEL 5/6 Bacula RPM repository
From: Martin Simmons <martin AT lispworks DOT com>
To: Simone Caronni <negativo17 AT gmail DOT com>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:48:18 GMT
Ah, thanks, I'd missed that you had updated the RPMs on fedorapeople.org.

__Martin


>>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:16:29 +0100, Simone Caronni said:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> fedora-usermgmt adds 33 + the "baseuid" defined in his config files, the
> latest RPM without it uses 133 as a static uid.
> 
> Regards,
> --Simone
> On Dec 20, 2011 8:53 PM, "Martin Simmons" <martin AT lispworks DOT com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm probably confused, but why is the rpm adding user/group 33, rather than
> > 133?
> >
> > __Martin
> >
> >
> >
> > >>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:56:15 +0100, Simone Caronni said:
> > >
> > > Sorry, those are the basis for fedora-usermgmt generation, the static
> > > uids associated with services can be found inside the "setup" package
> > > on any system.
> > >
> > > i.e. on my Fedora system:
> > >
> > > [slaanesh@3zpc0560 ~]$ rpm -qd setup
> > > /usr/share/doc/setup-2.8.36/COPYING
> > > /usr/share/doc/setup-2.8.36/uidgid
> > > [slaanesh@3zpc0560 ~]$ cat /usr/share/doc/setup-2.8.36/uidgid | grep
> > bacula
> > > bacula        133     133     /var/spool/bacula
> > /sbin/nologin   bacula
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > --Simone
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19 December 2011 09:29, Simone Caronni <negativo17 AT gmail DOT com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > what do you mean "it is a pratical joke or a time bomb"?
> > > >
> > > > In the links I've pasted there's also the Fedora "user registry" for
> > > > uids/gids, it is at:
> > > >
> > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageUserRegistry
> > > >
> > > > Remember this is a Fedora package and not a package for everyone, so
> > > > it follows those guidelines.
> > > > I will come back here in the next days if I'm allowed to remove the
> > > > fedora-usermgmt requirements in the package.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > --Simone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 17 December 2011 16:10, Geert Stappers <
> > Geert.Stappers AT vanadgroup DOT com> wrote:
> > > >> Op 20111215 om 16:40 schreef Joseph L. Casale:
> > > >>> >It is not a requirement but a recommendation inside the Fedora
> > > >>> >packaging guidelines:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Right:) Not EL requirements.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >I could try to remove that and put standard useradd / userdel
> > > >>> >commands, but I need to assess the change with the other Bacula
> > > >>> >mantainers and good reasons to do so.
> > > >>> >Is there any particular requirement on why you would like to avoid
> > > >>> >using fedora-usermgmt?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Mainly for the reason that as an EL shop, its a tough sale to
> > 'suggest'
> > > >>> as we haven't ever used those packages, now we should. I'd be pretty
> > > >>> surprised if any el shop uses any fedora packages even if it is only
> > > >>> wrappers like these.
> > > >>
> > > >> We are talking about
> > > >> } } /usr/sbin/fedora-groupadd 33 -r bacula &>/dev/null || :
> > > >> } } /usr/sbin/fedora-useradd  33 -r -s /sbin/nologin -d
> > /var/spool/bacula -M \
> > > >> } }         -c 'Bacula Backup System' -g bacula bacula &>/dev/null ||
> > :
> > > >> } }
> > > >> } } It is used to create predictable user / group assignment + some
> > other
> > > >> } } features like logging, etc.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm sure of it is a pratical joke or a time bomb.
> > > >> The information I miss, is where id 33 is reserved / claimed /
> > registered.
> > > >>
> > > >> Any package could do
> > > >>  /usr/sbin/fedora-groupadd 33 -r anotherpackagename &>/dev/null || :
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> So at which central place are user id and group ids
> > > >> for packages documented?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Groeten
> > > >> Geert Stappers
> > > >>
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