Hi Bill,

You say your incremental back-up is terminated. To get the first normal 
incremental backup to complete you will first have to solve the termination 
issue. In the client error log you could find the reason for this.

Due to the # of objects to be inspected in one file space I think the 
termination is caused by "system out of memory" condition. One of the things 
you could try is to do the incremental "memory efficient". 

Regards,

Karel
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Daniel Sparrman
Sent: donderdag 16 juni 2005 9:38
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Backup of large server (15+ Million objects)

Hi Bill

With replication you mean asynchronous replication(like PPRC on ESS or TC/IP 
mirroring with a product like DoubleTake)?

That wont help you solve the issue. One virus attack on that server and it's 
history as the replication is on a hardware basis; it will replicate the virus 
in real-time and when your fileserver guys finally discovers they've been hit 
by a virus, it'll be too late ... Replication(or remote
mirroring) is never a solution to protect the data, it only protects your data 
from hardware issues, not logical issues.

One way of going would be to use some sort of flash copy where you do a 
flashcopy on a scheduled basis(for example, every 4 hour). This way of going 
will never protect you entirely, you still risk loosing data(for example, the 
server is destroyed 3 hours and 49 minutes from the last flash copy... means 
you probably lost alot of data).

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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>From what I'm reading and understanding (which may be 2 entirely different 
things!!) junction points just let me create a link between directories. 
Kinda like hard/soft links in Unix (ln  command). Mount points let me take 
a drive and mount it on a directory instead of a new drive letter.

I want to go the other way...take a directory and make it a drive letter 
or a new filesystem to TSM. Even if I could split this 15million object 
filespace into 3 or more separate filespaces I think I could get a backup 
done in a reasonable time...or even get it done! Right now it just plain 
doesn't finish. Mostly the scheduler service dies and the backup fails.

IMAGE backups aren't an optoin with 3590E drives and "K" media. I would be 
here forever doing the backup and then I couldn't carry all the tapes! :-)

Any ideas or suggestions?? One optoin they are looking at is just 
replicating this volume to another location instead of or in addition to 
backups (if I can get it to run).

Bill

-------------- Original message --------------

> Actually with both Windows 2000 and Windows 2003 you can create what is 
like a
> mount point in Unix land. Search MS's site for "junction point" OR 
"mount
> point".
>
>
> Bill Boyer wrote:
> This is a single drive letter, G:, so I can't separate it into multiple 
nodes or
> even schedules. Plus virtualmountpoint is only valid for Unix's, not 
Windoze.
>
> Thanks.
> Bill
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Hi Bill
> >
> > 1. Separating it into multiple TSM nodes, for example one node per
> > filespace
> >
> > 2. Using the virtual mount point option
> >
> > Both theese options should decrease the time TSM spends on inspecting 
the
> > filespaces.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Daniel Sparrman
> > -----------------------------------
> > Daniel Sparrman
> > Exist i Stockholm AB
> > Propellervdgen 6B
> > 183 62 TDBY
> > Vdxel: 08 - 754 98 00
> > Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Boyer
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
> > 2005-06-14 16:36
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> > Subject
> > Backup of large server (15+ Million objects)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Windows 2000 server with TSM client 5.3.0.8.
> > TSM server 5.2.2.0 on Windows2000
> >
> > Configured the journal service with a larger notify buffer, but we 
just
> > can't get the first incremental to complete. We see in the server
> > activity log that the session was terminated by the client. Running in
> > managed services mode.
> >
> > Any suggestions on backup strategies on this large of a server?
> >
> > Bill Boyer
> > DSS, Inc.
>
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