Re: Hierarchy of submaps

1999-11-11 07:20:23
Subject: Re: Hierarchy of submaps
From: Leslie Clark <lclark AT US.IBM DOT COM>
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:20:23 -0500
There might be some misunderstanding here. This is covered in the
Admin guide in the chapter on customizing your map.

The Root submap, where you see the IP Internet icon, is not yours to
mess with unless you are writing software. Applications may have their
top icon there. Netview's ipmap application puts the IP Internet icon
there, for example. You would most likely be working within that topology.
Unless, of course, you are writing an application. Also on the Root
submap is the icon for the Collections facility (called Smartsets on NT).
It is managed by another application. Installing other products may add
things to the Root submap as well.

The IP Internet submap (ipmap application) has strict rules about its own
submap heirarchy, and these are detailed in the Admin Guide. You need to
understand these rules if you intend to cut and paste the map, which most
folks do. If you break the rules, then the ipmap application may not be
able to correctly maintain the status of the nodes in the map. It may look
like it is working for a while, but you will likely end up with a corrupt
database.  So backups are important.

There are several menu functions on Netview for doing things like
adding submaps, or copying things, but these are not intended for
basic customization of the network topology, they are really for
application developers. The usual customization of the IP Internet
topology is done with the addition of Location icons on the IP Internet
level submap, and cutting and pasting groups of routers and networks
(from THIS submap) into the locations. I won't explain it here because
it is important that you see the detailed rules in the Admin Guide.

I'm having trouble reconciling this with what you have been told.
Adding a Location Icon on the IP Internet level does create a submap.


Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking

Fellow Netviewers

I have been advised by my netview service provider:

 " that the IP Internet view should   not have submaps but rather should
be a flat topology map and the heirarchical views should be based off the
root map. not doing so causes netview (5.1.1 under solaris 2.6) to be

I would appreciate  your experienced views on this matter.

Kind regards.

Willem Bos
Professional Services Manager
Logical Networks Limited
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