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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows

2010-01-26 03:55:33
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows
From: "WEAVER, Simon \(external\)" <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net>
To: <bob944 AT attglobal DOT net>, "Harpreet SINGH" <harpreet_singh AT ctl.creative DOT com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:55:01 -0000
Bob is 100% correct here. the time taken to even discuss this is more
effort than configuring a Policy that has the ALL LOCAL DRIVES Directive
:-)

For anything to do with Windows, you definetely WANT to back it all up!
dont ignore files! Unless you really, really have to !

If you need help get back in touch :-)

Warm Regards
Simon 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Policy Selection for Windows

> Sorry I confused...

No, you're not confused.  You are configuring NetBackup in what seems
the obvious way from your background (we _all_ do this, whether it's
backup or programming or word processing).

> The question is I have about 10 windows clients and each client has 
> different mount points to be back-up.
> 
> <<
> C:\cygwin
> C:\Inetpub
> C:\net-snmp
> C:\Inetpub
> C:\net-snmp
> C:\PHP
> D:\Program Files
> D:\user_files
> D:\Program Files
> D:\Webroot
> N:\Documents and Settings
> N:\notesdata
> N:\oracle
> N:\Program Files
> E:\Backup
> E:\Inetpub\visa
> E:\Inetpub\wwwroot
> G:\CheetahMailCLA
> G:\CheetahMailExtraction
> G:\CheetahMailUnsubUpdate V2
> >>
> I have  got a new request to backup new clients with whole C:\ and D:\

> drive.
> 
> If I use C:\ or D:\ then rest of the clients will also be backed up, 
> which I don't want. Is it I have to create a new policy for specific 
> requirements.

And what I'm telling you is that you _do_ want to just back up all the
C: and D: drives.  One policy, with all the clients, with one selection
list.  Trading backing up more than the minimum on those drives is
"cheaper" than managing a half dozen policies and their different
results, day in an day out.  Your brain should be occupied in something
more productive than trying to get backups onto one less tape.

So, again, make one policy, put all the clients in it, put all the
drives (or all_local_drives) in the selection list and go on to other
things.

If you don't like that advice, then, yes, you need multiple poliies any
time that the Attributes, Schedules, Clients and Selections _have_ to be
different.  And, yes, there _are_ reasons to do that
but you haven't put forward any except "new requirement."    A
requirement to back up x and y on clientA and z on clientB can be
satisfied most easily with one policy that backs up x, y and z on both
clientA and clientB.  The selections need not exist on all clients, as
long as one selection (within each stream--should you define them)
exists.


> [...]
>
> > I am new for Windows backup. Need your help to explain on below
> >
> > Here is the requirement.
> > Windows Clients  List ...
> >
> > CTLBIS1
> > CTLFS1
> > CTL-JAM
> > [...]
> >
> > Backup Selection Example.
> >
> > CTLDS04
> > Full C: drive
> >
> > NS
> > Full C: drive
> > Full D: drive
> >
> > NS0
> > C:\WINNT\System32\dns
> >
> > I can understand if we have absolute path selection. But how
> about
> > C:\ or
> > D:\ or E:\ etc...
> > how system will check from the above clients list which server's C:\

> > or D:\ or E:\  need to backup and other clients just absolute path.
> 
> If you have any background in NetBackup (that's not clear from your 
> note), it's no different than backing up any other system, like Unix 
> boxes with a Standard class.  A selection list entry, such as
> 
> c:\
> /c/program files/a*
> c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc
> /usr/openwin/bin/xclock
> 
> tells NetBackup to back up that selection (and its expansions if 
> wildcards are used, and everthing under it if it's a directory).
> If
> the schedule is a full, it's all backed up.  If an incremental 
> (differential or cumulative), only the changed files per the rules for

> diffs and cincs are backed up.  If the schedule has a window and a 
> frequency (or equivalent calendar-based automatic scheuling), invoke 
> it automatically accoring to those rules.
> 
> You tell NetBackup what to back up (Selection List), on what clients 
> (Clients), when and how (Scheules) by the class (policy) settings.
> NetBackup will follow the rules you have written in the class 
> definition.
> 
> If any of this is new to you, you must read at _least_ the Veritas 
> NetBackup Administrator's Guide, Volume 1.
> 
> For now, create one Win-FS policy, put ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES in the 
> selection list, put all the windows clients in the client list, put
> in a full and a differential scheule and run them manually   Add
> automatic scheuling and other attributes as your knowledge grows.


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