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[Veritas-bu] error 41

2005-10-31 10:57:38
Subject: [Veritas-bu] error 41
From: Patrick.Whelan AT lchclearnet DOT com (Patrick Whelan)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:57:38 -0000
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I have found that if you do a bpdir on the client on the offending file sys=
tem/folder that it will hang if you go deep enough. This will help isolate =
the problem if you are not the administrator of the client (of course this =
doesn't apply to VMS systems, and maybe others) but does work for UNIX and =
Windoze systems.
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-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
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man.eng.auburn.edu]On Behalf Of Moses, Darby
Sent: 31 October 2005 15:23
To: Greenberg, Katherine A; Jim.McConnell AT stclair DOT org; 
[email protected]=
ng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] error 41


Agree.  I've seen HP-UX servers with a bad filesystem.  When the backup was=
 attempted it failed the the (41) network timeout.  So take the "Network" w=
ith a grain of salt.  It indicates a potential starting point for troublesh=
ooting but you may have a deeper problem, such as at the filesystem.
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Best Regards,
Darby Moses
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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
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man.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Greenberg, Katherine A
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 9:45 AM
To: Jim.McConnell AT stclair DOT org; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] error 41


I've found these errors are generally caused by either a locked file on the=
 client or a filesystem that is just wonky (we had one that you couldn't do=
 an ls on b/c of the lack of free inodes w/ error 41's). Best bet is to cre=
ate a bpbkar log on the client and run a backup of the filesystem that is c=
ausing the problems.
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~Kate
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-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
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man.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McConnell
Sent: 31 October 2005 14:03
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] error 41



For the last 2-3 weeks I've gotten and error 41 Error bpsched(pid=3D3668) s=
uspending further backup attempts for client schveriscan, policy Veriscan, =
schedule Sun_Daily_Cum_Inc because it has exceeded the configured number of=
 tries

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I've increased the number of tries and increased the number for client time=
outs but did not work.  I've double checked all of the network connections =
and settings and everything seems to be fine.

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Has anyone come across this issue before and if so what did you do to corre=
ct it? =20

=20

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Jim McConnell

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(412) 344-6600 ext. 1104

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  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of 
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  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Agree.&nbsp; I've&nbsp;seen HP-UX servers with a=
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  filesystem.&nbsp; When the backup was attempted it failed the the (41) ne=
twork=20
  timeout.&nbsp; So take the "Network" with a grain of salt.&nbsp; It indic=
ates=20
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   problem, such as at the filesystem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D733064314-31102005><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>I've =
found these=20
  errors are generally caused by either a locked file on the client or a=20
  filesystem that is just wonky (we had one that you couldn't do an ls on b=
/c of=20
  the lack of free inodes w/ error 41's). Best bet is to create a bpbkar lo=
g on=20
  the client and run a backup of the filesystem that is causing the=20
  problems.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D733064314-31102005><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D733064314-31102005><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
  size=3D2>~Kate</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of 
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    McConnell<BR><B>Sent:</B> 31 October 2005 14:03<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Veritas-bu] 
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    gotten and error 41 Error bpsched(pid=3D3668) suspending further backup=
     attempts for client schveriscan, policy Veriscan, schedule Sun_Daily_C=
um_Inc=20
    because it has exceeded the configured number of=20
    tries<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN><=
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I&#8217;ve increased the =
number of=20
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sp;=20
    I&#8217;ve double checked all of the network connections and settings a=
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