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[Veritas-bu] Upgraded to 4.5

2003-01-21 10:06:13
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Upgraded to 4.5
From: lfafard AT saskpower DOT com (Lowell Fafard)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:06:13 -0600
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Maximizing the activity monitor just puts the topology map into the 
background, because it still takes way to long to refresh. 

I do have a ticket open with Veritas support to see if there is a way to 
disable this useless "feature", hopefully something will come out of it.

I wonder what other people are doing with this, or are we the only shop 
with slow wan links between media servers?

I wish they would have kept xbpadm around, or at least a Java console for 
windows.

Thanks
Lowell





scott.kendall AT abbott DOT com
Sent by: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
2003-01-20 07:24 PM

 
        To:     "Lowell Fafard" <lfafard AT saskpower DOT com>
        cc:     veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject:        Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgraded to 4.5



It looks like the difference is the slow wan links between master and 
media servers. 

Have you tried closing the topology windows for Activity Monitor and 
Device Monitor, as mentioned in the previous e-mail, and then 
refreshing... just curious if that makes a difference. 


- Scott 




"Lowell Fafard" <lfafard AT saskpower DOT com> 
01/20/2003 03:27 PM 
        
        To:        scott.kendall AT abbott DOT com 
        cc:        veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
        Subject:        Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgraded to 4.5




Hi Scott, how big is your environment?  Do you have a mixture of Media 
servers?  We have 6 AIX Media Servers, and 14 Windows 2000 Media Servers. 
The 14 Windows Media Servers are spread all over the place connected with 
slow wan links.  It seems that everytime I refresh all or move between 
device monitor and activity monitor it take a ridiculously long amount of 
time (50 minutes or more).  It is like it tries to go out to every media 
server and grab it's status, redrawing the topology map, or something! 

We didn't have these issues with 3.4, but then again I used the xbpadm.   

The Java GUI runs fine (as long as I don't use Hummingbird Exceed), it is 
lightning fast compared to the windows GUI. 

I found this on the support site, it looks like I'm not the only one, I'm 
not sure if that is good or bad. 
http://news.support.veritas.com/dnewsweb.exe?cmd=article&group=veritas.netbackup.datacenter.english&item=7147&utag=
   


Thanks 
Lowell 



scott.kendall AT abbott DOT com 
2003-01-20 10:21 AM 
        
       To:        "Lowell Fafard" <lfafard AT saskpower DOT com> 
       cc:        veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
       Subject:        Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgraded to 4.5





"50 minutes..."!!!  I hope that was supposed to be 5.  Even so, that's a 
long time.  50 is ridiculous.  If that's the case, I say throw out that 
2400 baud modem and get cable internet or stop trying to open it from home 
:-) 

to get rid of the topology map in any of the windows, you have a little 
icon in the top right corner of each window on the right side.  it will 
either be a maximize icon, or if you're already maximized, a split icon to 
go back to 2 windows.  click on the maximize icon for the one you want and 
the other goes away. 

I'm not sure if doing it this way helps performance, but I don't like the 
topology window so I don't use it.  It does seem a little faster when you 
don't use the topology, but I have never actually timed the two to see the 
difference. 


- Scott 


"Lowell Fafard" <lfafard AT saskpower DOT com> 
Sent by: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
01/20/2003 09:54 AM 
        
      To:        veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
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      Subject:        [Veritas-bu] Upgraded to 4.5






Hi Everyone, we just upgraded our environment from 3.4 to 4.5.  So far I'm 
very disappointed by the performance of the Java GUI and the Windows 
Remote Administration Console. 

I think the performance problem for the Windows Remote Admin Console is 
caused by the topology map the GUI draws.  The GUI takes about 50 minutes 
to start the activity monitor and the devices monitor, but everything else 
responds ok.  These two areas have the topology map in common,  does 
anyone know how to disable this topology "feature"?  Or are we stuck with 
it? 

Thanks 
Lowell 





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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Maximizing the activity monitor just puts 
the topology map into the background, because it still takes way to long to 
refresh. &nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I do have a ticket open with Veritas support 
to see if there is a way to disable this useless &quot;feature&quot;, hopefully 
something will come out of it.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I wonder what other people are doing with 
this, or are we the only shop with slow wan links between media servers?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I wish they would have kept xbpadm around, 
or at least a Java console for windows.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Lowell</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>scott.kendall AT abbott DOT com</b></font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: veritas-bu-admin AT 
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<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">2003-01-20 07:24 PM</font>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Lowell Fafard&quot; &lt;lfafard AT saskpower DOT 
com&gt;</font>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</font>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgraded to 4.5</font></table>
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It looks like the difference is the slow wan links between master and media 
servers.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Have you tried closing the topology windows for Activity Monitor and Device 
Monitor, as mentioned in the previous e-mail, and then refreshing... just 
curious if that makes a difference.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> 
<br>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
- Scott</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
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<td width=49%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>&quot;Lowell Fafard&quot; 
&lt;lfafard AT saskpower DOT com&gt;</b></font><font size=3 face="Times New 
Roman"> </font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">01/20/2003 03:27 PM</font><font size=3 
face="Times New Roman"> </font>
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 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;scott.kendall AT 
abbott DOT com</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 
face="sans-serif"><br>
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mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> 
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><br>
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[Veritas-bu] Upgraded to 4.5</font></table>
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<br>
Hi Scott, how big is your environment? &nbsp;Do you have a mixture of Media 
servers? &nbsp;We have 6 AIX Media Servers, and 14 Windows 2000 Media Servers. 
&nbsp;The 14 Windows Media Servers are spread all over the place connected with 
slow wan links. &nbsp;It seems that everytime I refresh all or move between 
device monitor and activity monitor it take a ridiculously long amount of time 
(50 minutes or more). &nbsp;It is like it tries to go out to every media server 
and grab it's status, redrawing the topology map, or something!</font><font 
size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
We didn't have these issues with 3.4, but then again I used the xbpadm. 
&nbsp;</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 
face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
The Java GUI runs fine (as long as I don't use Hummingbird Exceed), it is 
lightning fast compared to the windows GUI.</font><font size=3 face="Times New 
Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
I found this on the support site, it looks like I'm not the only one, I'm not 
sure if that is good or bad.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> 
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
http://news.support.veritas.com/dnewsweb.exe?cmd=article&amp;group=veritas.netbackup.datacenter.english&amp;item=7147&amp;utag=
 &nbsp;</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Thanks</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 
face="sans-serif"><br>
Lowell</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
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<td width=35%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>scott.kendall AT abbott DOT 
com</b></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">2003-01-20 10:21 AM</font><font size=3 
face="Times New Roman"> </font>
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&lt;lfafard AT saskpower DOT com&gt;</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> 
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; cc: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;veritas-bu AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> 
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><br>
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Upgraded to 4.5</font></table>
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<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
<br>
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&quot;50 minutes...&quot;!!! &nbsp;I hope that was supposed to be 5. &nbsp;Even 
so, that's a long time. &nbsp;50 is ridiculous. &nbsp;If that's the case, I say 
throw out that 2400 baud modem and get cable internet or stop trying to open it 
from home :-)</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 
face="Arial"><br>
<br>
to get rid of the topology map in any of the windows, you have a little icon in 
the top right corner of each window on the right side. &nbsp;it will either be 
a maximize icon, or if you're already maximized, a split icon to go back to 2 
windows. &nbsp;click on the maximize icon for the one you want and the other 
goes away.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 
face="Arial"><br>
<br>
I'm not sure if doing it this way helps performance, but I don't like the 
topology window so I don't use it. &nbsp;It does seem a little faster when you 
don't use the topology, but I have never actually timed the two to see the 
difference.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 
face="Arial"><br>
<br>
<br>
- Scott</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font>
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<td width=50%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>&quot;Lowell Fafard&quot; 
&lt;lfafard AT saskpower DOT com&gt;</b></font><font size=3 face="Times New 
Roman"> </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><br>
Sent by: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</font><font size=3 
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<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">01/20/2003 09:54 AM</font><font size=3 
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to 4.5</font></table>
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<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi Everyone, we just upgraded our environment from 3.4 to 4.5. &nbsp;So far I'm 
very disappointed by the performance of the Java GUI and the Windows Remote 
Administration Console.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font 
size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
I think the performance problem for the Windows Remote Admin Console is caused 
by the topology map the GUI draws. &nbsp;The GUI takes about 50 minutes to 
start the activity monitor and the devices monitor, but everything else 
responds ok. &nbsp;These two areas have the topology map in common, &nbsp;does 
anyone know how to disable this topology &quot;feature&quot;? &nbsp;Or are we 
stuck with it?</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 
face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Thanks</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 
face="sans-serif"><br>
Lowell</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
<br>
<br>
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