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Re: [Bacula-users] {SPAM?} Re: {SPAM?} ULTRIUM-HH6 Block Size Limits with Adaptec 78165 or Other Issue?

2016-12-27 13:05:57
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] {SPAM?} Re: {SPAM?} ULTRIUM-HH6 Block Size Limits with Adaptec 78165 or Other Issue?
From: Drew Von Spreecken <drewvs AT null DOT net>
To: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 12:00:39 -0600
I have received a response back from Adaptec about block-size and tape 
drives.

All of their controllers have a hard-limit of 256KB. This is an 
undocumented limit it appears...



On 12/23/2016 05:05 PM, Alan Brown wrote:
> On 22/12/16 17:49, Drew Von Spreecken wrote:
>> Thank you Alan for the detailed response.
>>
>> I was unaware of the GPL violations, this is an issue for me and it
>> will be removed promptly.
>>
>> The block size I am aiming for was 512KB-1MB and have done extensive
>> research on tuning. This should also of course be within specification
>> of bacula-sd.
> 500k to 1Mb seems to be about the point where the gain ends.
>
>> Because I am currently writing at a 64KB block, I get around 70MB/s of
>> throughput on a mix of compressible and non-compressible data. Even
>> changing it to a working 256KB improves what I am writing by about
>> 15MB/s. Changing to any other value causes an immediate Device Or
>> Resource busy error.
>>
> What parameter are you using and where in the config file are you using it?
>
>
>> The setup has worked well for years until my storage array doubled in
>> size. It is taking over a week to do a backup.
>>
>> This is direct-attached storage so I don't believe the network buffer
>> should have an effect, right?
>>
> Direct attached to what? Do you mean your disks, tape drives and bacula
> are all running on the same system? If so, then you're probably right.
>
>> I'm not sure I completely understand this statement.
>>
>> "
>>
>> You cannot change maximum block sizes on a single volume (Tape). Doing
>> so is extremely likely to result in an unreadable volume past the point
>> where the block size has changed (reading older tapes with smaller
>> maximum block sizes is still ok)
>>
>> "
>>
>> My plan was to overwrite all tapes that may have a smaller block size.
>> It doesn't matter at this time if I temporarily don't have a tape
>> backup and I have no old archives I am concerned with.
> You don't need to do that. An older tape will smaller block size will
> read just fine, but don't mix block sizes on any one tape.
>
>
>> Rewinding the tape and writing an EOF marker and rewinding again
>> should solve this correct?
>>
> Probably
>
>> To me it seems like a the SAS controller I am connected to but it just
>> seems so unlikely it isn't able to pass blocks greater than 256KB but
>> I have no way of verifying this.
>>
> What's your SAS controller chipset? Some of the older ones are downright
> awful.
>
>
>
>> The more I write this the more I am convincing myself it probably has
>> nothing to do with Bacula (rip-off version) or the configuration. I
>> was just hoping someone has run into something similar before.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> drewv
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/22/2016 11:15 AM, Alan Brown wrote:
>>> On 22/12/16 14:31, Drew Von Spreecken wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> I have run into an issue and am looking for input. I have a SAS tape
>>>> autoloader with an IBM HH-LTO6 drive running the newest firmware.
>>>> It is currently connected to a Adaptec 78165 HBA/Raid controller via
>>>> SAS.
>>> The maximum block size for IBM LTO6 drives (HH or full height) is 8MB
>>> (It's usually 16MB for HP drives)
>>>
>>>> The issue I am having is when I attempt to modify the block-size to
>>>> anything over 256KB that BareOS writes to tape, it fails. To simplify
>>>> troubleshooting I have opted to use a combination of btape and dd to
>>>> test block-size adjustments.
>>> Bareos is not Bacula
>>>
>>> (well, it _IS_ Bacula, which someone has tried to repackage and claim
>>> credit for. It is not supported by the Bacula community - and given the
>>> legal antics of the Bareos maintainer, (including egrarious GPL
>>> breaches) I would advise you don't bring Bareos problems to this forum -
>>> and further suggest that you should consider uninstalling Bareos.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Back on the block size topic:
>>>
>>>
>>> The maximum block size supported by bacula-SD is 2MB. That is sufficient
>>> to get at least 140MB/s write speed on a LTO6 drive for non-compressible
>>> data and upwards of 300MB/s for highly compressible data.
>>>
>>> device {
>>> ...
>>>     Maximum block size = 2M
>>> ...
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> Attempting to increase max block size past 2MB will result in errors.
>>> There is no general benefit in doing so in any case (Tested and
>>> verified. I feel that setting larger block sizes should be allowable
>>> even if there's no benefit, as it causes apparent errors when the max
>>> block size settable in Bacula is smaller than the max allowable block
>>> size reported by the tape drives)
>>>
>>>
>>> Make sure you understand the difference between the block size (writing
>>> to the tape device) and the network buffer size (communications between
>>> -df, -dir and -sd - and needs to be set in all three config files if you
>>> change anything)
>>>
>>> device {
>>> ...
>>>     Maximum Network Buffer Size = 262144
>>> ...
>>> }
>>>
>>> Increasing the Network buffer size from the default 64kB is advisable to
>>> achieve higher transfer rates on Gb/s or faster networks but there is no
>>> discernable benefit going past 256kB - even on 10Gb/s networks.
>>>
>>>
>>> You cannot change maximum block sizes on a single volume (Tape). Doing
>>> so is extremely likely to result in an unreadable volume past the point
>>> where the block size has changed (reading older tapes with smaller
>>> maximum block sizes is still ok)
>>>
>>>
>>> If changing block size in a working system, mark ALL open volumes as
>>> used _before_ attempting any more writes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Each test I perform I rewind the tape, write EOF and rewind again. I'm
>>>> not missing a step here, right? Should I be able to write to a tape in
>>>> this way with a different block size if I've used it at a different
>>>> (smaller) size before?
>>>>
>>>> I am querying the tape-drive in the autoloader directly, the autoloader
>>>> should not be part of the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Writing at anything under and at 256Kb works fine but is slow.
>>>>
>>>> The output from tapeinfo is:
>>>>
>>>> tapeinfo -f /dev/nst0
>>>> Product Type: Tape Drive
>>>> Vendor ID: 'IBM     '
>>>> Product ID: 'ULTRIUM-HH6     '
>>>> Revision: 'G9P1'
>>>> Attached Changer API: No
>>>> SerialNumber: '10WT077984'
>>>> MinBlock: 1
>>>> MaxBlock: 8388608
>>>> SCSI ID: 0
>>>> SCSI LUN: 0
>>>> Ready: yes
>>>> BufferedMode: yes
>>>> Medium Type: 0x68
>>>> Density Code: 0x5a
>>>> BlockSize: 0
>>>> DataCompEnabled: no
>>>> DataCompCapable: yes
>>>> DataDeCompEnabled: yes
>>>> CompType:
>>>> DeCompType: 0xff
>>>> Block Position: 5
>>>> Partition 0 Remaining Kbytes: -1
>>>> Partition 0 Size in Kbytes: -1
>>>> ActivePartition: 0
>>>> EarlyWarningSize: 0
>>>> NumPartitions: 0
>>>> MaxPartitions: 3
>>>>
>>>> As you can see the block size limit for the drive itself is ~8MB...
>>>>
>>>> Here is an output from mt:
>>>>
>>>> mt -f /dev/nst0 status
>>>> SCSI 2 tape drive:
>>>> File number=0, block number=0, partition=0.
>>>> Tape block size 0 bytes. Density code 0x5a (no translation).
>>>> Soft error count since last status=0
>>>> General status bits on (41010000):
>>>>     BOT ONLINE IM_REP_EN
>>>>
>>>> Here is an attempt to write at a 256K block:
>>>>
>>>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/nst0 bs=256k count=1
>>>> 1+0 records in
>>>> 1+0 records out
>>>> 262144 bytes (262 kB) copied, 1.9402 s, 135 kB/s
>>>>
>>>> Here is the failure at 512K:
>>>>
>>>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/nst0 bs=512k count=1
>>>> dd: error writing ‘/dev/nst0’: Device or resource busy
>>>> 1+0 records in
>>>> 0+0 records out
>>>> 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 1.56954 s, 0.0 kB/s
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It will fail with anything over 256K, even 257K.
>>>>
>>>> There are no errors in my system logs.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect either I have a configuration error here or am missing
>>>> something simple OR the Adaptec 78165 raid controller is limiting the
>>>> block size before I write to tape. Adaptec support is unable to confirm
>>>> this. Is there a way I can prove this or does anyone have any guidance
>>>> on how to continue troubleshooting this issue?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> --drewv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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