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Re: [BackupPC-users] Is this software abandoned? Who is packager Bernard Johnson?

2016-06-08 07:14:09
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Is this software abandoned? Who is packager Bernard Johnson?
From: Benjamin Lefoul <benjamin.lefoul AT nwise DOT se>
To: "General list for user discussion, questions and support" <backuppc-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:43:24 +0000
>________________________________________
>From: FLORENT Philippe <Philippe.FLORENT AT edenred DOT com>
>Sent: 08 June 2016 11:16
>To: General list for user discussion,   questions and support
>Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Is this software abandoned? Who is packager 
>Bernard Johnson?
>
>Well, as long as one will be able to do sudo apt-get install backuppc

Well, this is the very reason why I started this thread.
Fedora packager Bernard Johnson has gone dark, and I am following 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers
in the hope that I may take over 
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1342138). The point is to be able 
to keep doing "yum/dnf install".
The procedure being similar on Debian, I can guarantee you that a clear 
migration to a git repository (and typically hosted on GitHub, though it 
doesn't have to) will be welcomed by most packagers.

It would be nice to have a clear indication that the original author, the Craig 
Barrat here: https://github.com/craigbarratt and the one here: 
https://sourceforge.net/u/cbarratt/profile/ are the same person and who are the 
people behind this: https://github.com/backuppc

Thanks,

Benjamin Lefoul









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From: Smith, Graham - Computing Technical Officer [mailto:Graham.Smith AT 
ittdublin DOT ie]
Sent: mercredi 8 juin 2016 11:01
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Is this software abandoned? Who is packager 
Bernard Johnson?

By it's very nature, backup tends to be a conservative entity. Whilst I'm no 
stranger to
agile code and chasing the latest and coolest features. I don't think this 
migration is
a fork in the sense of a change of direction. I don't really see much evidence 
of a desire
for custom versions and multiple repos - Backuppc is just not that sort of 
software.
>>From reading this list for some time now, I feel the move to github is more 
>>about the project
keeping pace with peoples "business needs" in terms of keeping the software 
relevant,
operating reliably. And also getting 4.0 into a stable state.

Certainly there is a strong sense of community in Backuppc and it's features are
quite unique. I'm glad to see the enthusiasm to help pick up the slack and the 
momentum
where Craig is under pressure with other things. This is all happening with his 
blessing
if I'm not mistaken? So I don't think there is any intended negatives to this.

Following two discussion lists is a bit messy however. Whilst the archives are 
an invaluable resource
on sourceforge, ultimately I'd love to see everything consolidated.

Graham


From: David Cramblett [mailto:david AT functionalchaos DOT net]
Sent: 07 June 2016 17:48
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support <backuppc-users AT 
lists.sourceforge DOT net<mailto:backuppc-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net>>
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Is this software abandoned? Who is packager 
Bernard Johnson?

I'm very familiar with GitHub. However, forking a "github repo" and forking a 
"project" have different connotations.

David

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Kenneth Porter <shiva AT sewingwitch DOT 
com<mailto:shiva AT sewingwitch DOT com>> wrote:
On 6/6/2016 9:52 AM, David Cramblett wrote:
> Not forking, just migrating to GitHUb. Craig will still be project
> lead and maintain control. This is probably what you meant, just want
> to be clear for others who may read this.

It wasn't clear to me whether Craig would be returning.

However, note that the git architecture naturally creates forks, if only
short-lived ones. It allows us all to pick and choose patches from
downstream repos to create our own custom version of a project. So if
Craig gets busy and can't keep up with everyone's fixes, someone else
can gather them in an independent repo. Much like the way there are many
Linux kernels that share the same core code but focus on different
objectives. This isn't a bad thing. Embrace it. Much like we enjoy
"covers" of popular songs.


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