BackupPC-users

Re: [BackupPC-users] Keeping servers in sync

2009-09-02 17:10:38
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Keeping servers in sync
From: dan <dandenson AT gmail DOT com>
To: "General list for user discussion, questions and support" <backuppc-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:06:43 -0600

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Jim Leonard <trixter AT oldskool DOT org> wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
> Jim Leonard wrote:
>> Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> With backuppc the issue is not so much fragmentation within a file as
>>> the distance between the directory entry, the inode, and the file
>>> content.  When creating a new file, filesystems generally attempt to
>>> allocate these close to each other, but when you link an existing file
>>> into a new directory, that obviously can't be done so you end up with a
>>> lot of long seeks when you try to traverse directories picking up the
>>> inode info.
>> For some filesystem implementations, this is true.  For others, it is
>> not, due to judicious use of caching, preloading, and lookahead.
>
> Why would any filesystem 'judiciously' cache things for unlikely use patterns?

Because it's written much better than the filesystem whose behavior
you're outlining above?  These are solved issues in modern filesystems.

These issues are not solved in any filesystem and cannot be.  This is just a result of how files are written and then a contiguous backup is removed and the hardlinks remain with inodes pointing at files that are not from the same backup or do not naturally get written to the disk the same.  Modern filesystems handle block fragmentation better but cannot handle file fragmentation as it has no control over when a file will be written and where that file sits in reguards to the backup.
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