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Re: [ADSM-L] TSM, Linux and VMs

2015-07-06 11:09:19
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM, Linux and VMs
From: "Ryder, Michael S" <michael_s.ryder AT ROCHE DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 11:07:04 -0400
Julien, thank you for your reply.

Tell me, using your process with the TDP for VE and a block-level IFI
backup of a Linux VM, is there a way to search TSM's DB for a file without
mounting anything?

You see, if a user deletes a file but doesn't remember the last time he or
she saw it, I would like to be able to search the TSM DB for it, and then
know exactly what needs to be restored.

If I am correct, using the TDP for VE means I have to mount every IFI image
for that VM that I have stored, until I find the one with the correct
version of file that I need.

In this case, it doesn't look like the TDP for VE is very friendly, as it
causes the user or Helpdesk more work to find their file.

WITHOUT TDP for VE, I can do this for Windows VMs, *and* be able to use an
off-host backup server with just the normal TSM BA client.  But not for
Linux VMs -- so now, have the same ability across all my VMs, I need to
maintain two different types of functionality, through different client
packages and in a different manner.  (Off-host for WIndows VMs, but
in-guest for Linux VMs).

Again... if I'm right, then this is not efficient, and is a pain-in-the
neck.  According to VMware, the VADP supports what I want to do, and sadly,
the Linux BA client does not.  Will IBM ever fix the Linux BA client so it
supports the ability to do off-host file-level backup of Linux VMs?


Best regards,

Mike, x7942
RMD IT Client Services <http://rmsit.dia.roche.com/Pages/default.aspx>

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Julien Sauvanet <SAUVANET AT fr.ibm DOT com>
wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> let me mitigate this statement.
> Although the backup process is at block level , through the VADP ,you are
> able to recover single from that block based backup, by using recovery
> agent or even better using the mount feature now released in the TSM-VE UI
> (vCenter plug-in) ... for both Windows and Linux, this with latest TSM-VE
> release 7.1.1
>
> Hope it helps.
>
>
> Cordialement, Best Regards,
>
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>  From: "Ryder, Michael S" <michael_s.ryder AT ROCHE DOT COM> To:
> ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU Date: 07/01/2015 02:41 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] 
> TSM,
> Linux and VMs Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
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> Hello Erwann, thank you for replying.
>
> I am not using VCB -- but instead, VADP.  It's ridiculous that IBM can't
> offer the same off-host file-level backup of for Linux VMs that they do for
> Windows VMs - now I have to deploy and manage an in-guest BA client for
> every VM?
>
> According to this link, it looks like file-level backup should be
> available, off-host using VADP for BOTH Windows and Linux.
>
>
> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1021175
>
> Am I missing something?  Does anyone know if IBM is working on this
> feature?  I don't relish the idea of searching for Linux files by
> repeatedly mounting images until I find the file I need...
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mike, x7942
> RMD IT Client Services
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Erwann SIMON <erwann.simon AT free DOT fr> 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Mike,
> >
> > I guess you're using the old VCB backup modes (with filelevel option).
> >
> > VCB allows image level (fullvm) for any guest operating system, but
> > file-level is limited to Windows guest operating system.
> >
> > See this datasheet from VMware :
> > http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/consolidated_backup_datasheet.pdf
> >
> > So, you won't be able to perform off-host file-level backup of your Linux
> > guests.
> >
> > The only available solutions are :
> > - installing a Linux B/A client, but i'ts an in guest istallation.
> > - installing TSM for VE that allows file-level recovery from an forever
> > incremental block-level image backup.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي
> > Erwann SIMON
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > De: "Michael S Ryder" <michael_s.ryder AT ROCHE DOT COM>
> > A: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Envoyé: Mercredi 1 Juillet 2015 05:13:03
> > Objet: [ADSM-L] TSM, Linux and VMs
> >
> > Folks:
> >
> > Is it possible to perform off-host, file-level incremental backups of
> Linux
> > VMs from a Linux "proxy" or "data mover?"
> >
> > I am using TSM 7.1.1 Server, and have a mix of Windows and Linux VMs
> > (VMware, vSphere 5.5 environment).
> >
> > I have no trouble using my Windows "data mover" with the BA client to
> > perform file-level backups of Windows VMs, but I am thus far unable to
> use
> > my Linux "data mover" host with BA client to perform file-level backups
> of
> > Linux VMs.
> >
> > Is this not supported?  If not... what is the best way to perform
> off-host,
> > file level incremental backups of Linux VMs?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Mike, x7942
> > RMD IT Client Services
> >
>
>
>
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