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Re: [ADSM-L] Database size, Split to multiple instances or wait for version 6.1

2008-12-05 13:58:22
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Database size, Split to multiple instances or wait for version 6.1
From: "Conradt, Jeremy" <JConradt AT ASHLEYFURNITURE DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:56:42 -0600
We started using Tivoli in October of 2006 with version 5.3 but I did
have to perform a DB Export to repair some issues with it.  I can't find
exactly when I did it but I think it was in 2007, June time frame.  My
server is an IBM x346 with 3.25 GB of memory and 2 Xeon 3.6 GHz
processors.  The tape drive is also FC connected to the server.  I did
recently move the database to another drive by creating the new volumes
and issuing the delete dbvolume commands on the old ones.  Not sure if
that would have helped.  I don't use TSM mirroring so not sure if that
would add any overhead. 
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Paul Zarnowski
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 5:50 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Database size, Split to multiple instances or wait
for version 6.1

Interesting..  we have a database that's about the same size, but it
takes us 2 hours and 40 minutes to back it up to LTO3.  We also have 15K
rpm 36GB drives, in two mirrored RAID5,7 sets (TSM mirroring).  SAN is
2Gb FC.  Server is P5 570.  Server is not entire idle, but mostly so.
Our database is ancient, dating back to ADSM 1.2 days and has never been
re-organized.  How old is your database?  I'm wondering if a re-org
would improve things that much.

..Paul

At 12:05 PM 12/4/2008, Conradt, Jeremy wrote:
>Its actually not 350 GB.  The actual used size is:
>
>Available Assigned   Maximum   Maximum    Page     Total      Used
Pct
>Max.
>     Space Capacity Extension Reduction    Size    Usable     Pages
Util
>Pct
>      (MB)     (MB)      (MB)      (MB) (bytes)     Pages
>Util
>--------- -------- --------- --------- ------- --------- --------- 
>-----
>-----
>   350,000  340,000    10,000    57,580   4,096 87,040,00 72,203,13
83.0
>83.1
>                                                        0         6
>
>The DB resides on 7 - 15K fiber channel drives in a Raid5 configuration

>with 2 GB/s Fiber connection.
>Also the Log resides on a separate lun on a separate controller.
>Also during this time basically nothing else is happening on the
system.
>
>The tape drive is LTO3.
>If I backup the DB while multiple migration or reclamation processes 
>are running then the DB backup is significantly slowed down.
>I have also attached the output of the last DBBackup for your reference

>and for the doubters.
>I actually estimated the time and I was a little high on it.  I can't 
>give you the output from an expire because my log files have already 
>been replaced but here is the last run's time output.
>
>C:\Program Files\Tivoli\tsm\baclient>time /t
>12:16 PM
>C:\Program Files\Tivoli\tsm\baclient>dsmadmc -id=scriptrun
>-password=****** expire inventory wait=yes
>1>c:\scripts\logs\07-expire.txt
>C:\Program Files\Tivoli\tsm\baclient>time /t
>01:12 PM
>
>Jeremy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
>Of Bos, Karel
>Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:45 AM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Database size, Split to multiple instances or 
>wait for version 6.1
>
>Ok, 350GB tsm db backing up in 1 hour? How did you get it that fast?
>
>Regards,
>
>Karel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
>Of Conradt, Jeremy
>Sent: donderdag 4 december 2008 17:19
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: Database size, Split to multiple instances or wait for 
>version 6.1
>
>Expiration takes about 1 hour.  DB Backup takes about 1 hour 15
minutes.
>
>Thanks,
>Jeremy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
>Of Wanda Prather
>Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:01 PM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Database size, Split to multiple instances or 
>wait for version 6.1
>
>How long does it take you now to do Expiration and DB backup?
>
>
>
>On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Conradt, Jeremy < 
>JConradt AT ashleyfurniture DOT com> wrote:
>
> > I have a TSM server currently running version 5.3.5 on Windows 2003 
> > that we plan to upgrade soon.
> > The problem I have is our database has grown to 350 GB.
> > The question I have is will version 6.1 of TSM be better capable of 
> > maintaining a database this size and much larger or should I break 
> > it apart?
> > I would rather keep everything together so we can make better use of

> > de-duplication that may be coming out with version 6.
> > Thanks,
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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Manager, Storage Services                 Fx: 607-255-8521
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