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Re: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

2006-04-18 10:52:05
Subject: Re: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?
From: "Bell, Charles (Chip)" <Chip.Bell AT BHSALA DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:46:40 -0500
I wish it were that simple.  :)   We actually do a full every night for
this set of databases. 

Some questions the vendor asked...

"You have 4 threads starting at the same time, one for each dbs which is
fine.  Could there be there another Tivoli process on the 8th day that
may be using 5 threads?  Tivoli can only handle 8 threads at a time,
causing the last worx thread to wait until the other processes complete.

 
What we see on the 12th is a delay of 2 seconds where Tivoli does
nothing, it is waiting on something.  
The 4 processes are forked at the same time each day -
Tivoli should begin the 4 backups immediately in sequence, but it does
not.
Tivoli completes the 1st backup, then waits 2 seconds and begins the
other 3 backups."

The bar_act.log for an example of a 'normal' backup...

2006-04-17 00:55:40 22260  23824 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d -b
 2006-04-17 00:55:43 22260  23824 Begin level 0 backup rootdbs.
 2006-04-17 00:55:43 22260  23824 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-17 00:55:44 22260  23824 Completed level 0 backup rootdbs.
 2006-04-17 00:55:46 35386  22260 Process 35386  22260 successfully
forked.
 2006-04-17 00:55:46 35002  22260 Process 35002  22260 successfully
forked.
 2006-04-17 00:55:47 35386  22260 Begin level 0 backup phys_dbs.
 2006-04-17 00:55:47 33858  22260 Process 33858  22260 successfully
forked.
 2006-04-17 00:55:47 35386  22260 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-17 00:55:47 35386  22260 Completed level 0 backup phys_dbs.
 2006-04-17 00:55:47 19004  22260 Process 19004  22260 successfully
forked.
 2006-04-17 00:55:48 35002  22260 Begin level 0 backup logs_dbs.
 2006-04-17 00:55:48 35002  22260 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-17 00:55:48 35002  22260 Completed level 0 backup logs_dbs.
 2006-04-17 00:55:49 33858  22260 Begin level 0 backup prod_dbs.
 2006-04-17 00:55:49 33858  22260 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-17 00:55:50 19004  22260 Begin level 0 backup test_dbs.
 2006-04-17 00:55:50 19004  22260 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-17 00:55:50 35002  22260 Process 35002  22260 completed.
 2006-04-17 00:55:50 35386  22260 Process 35386  22260 completed.
 2006-04-17 01:16:14 19004  22260 Completed level 0 backup test_dbs.
 2006-04-17 01:16:15 19004  22260 Process 19004  22260 completed.
 2006-04-17 01:50:00 24852  35424 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d -l
 2006-04-17 01:50:01 24852  35424 Begin backup logical log 10953.
 2006-04-17 01:50:01 24852  35424 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-17 01:50:07 24852  35424 Completed backup logical log 10953.
 2006-04-17 01:50:07 24852  35424 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 0 (0x
00)
 2006-04-17 01:52:14 33858  22260 Completed level 0 backup prod_dbs.
 2006-04-17 01:52:15 33858  22260 Process 33858  22260 completed.
 2006-04-17 01:52:15 22260  23824 Begin backup logical log 10954.
 2006-04-17 01:52:16 22260  23824 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-17 01:52:16 35446  19126 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d -l
 2006-04-17 01:52:16 22260  23824 Completed backup logical log 10954.
 2006-04-17 01:52:16 22260  23824 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 0 (0x
00)
 2006-04-17 01:52:16 35446  19126 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 0 (0x
00)

For an abnormal backup...

2006-04-12 00:56:03 19658  34038 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d -b
 2006-04-12 00:56:06 19658  34038 Begin level 0 backup rootdbs.
 2006-04-12 00:56:07 19658  34038 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 00:56:09 19658  34038 Completed level 0 backup rootdbs.
 2006-04-12 00:56:14 18354  19658 Process 18354  19658 successfully
forked.
 2006-04-12 00:56:14 21288  19658 Process 21288  19658 successfully
forked.
 2006-04-12 00:56:14 34224  19658 Process 34224  19658 successfully
forked.
 2006-04-12 00:56:14 35060  19658 Process 35060  19658 successfully
forked.
 2006-04-12 00:56:15 18354  19658 Begin level 0 backup logs_dbs.
 2006-04-12 00:56:15 18354  19658 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 00:56:15 18354  19658 Completed level 0 backup logs_dbs.
 2006-04-12 00:56:17 35060  19658 Begin level 0 backup phys_dbs.
 2006-04-12 00:56:17 21288  19658 Begin level 0 backup prod_dbs.
 2006-04-12 00:56:17 34224  19658 Begin level 0 backup test_dbs.
 2006-04-12 00:56:17 21288  19658 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 00:56:17 35060  19658 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 00:56:17 34224  19658 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 00:56:17 18354  19658 Process 18354  19658 completed.
 2006-04-12 00:56:17 35060  19658 Completed level 0 backup phys_dbs.
 2006-04-12 00:56:17 35060  19658 Process 35060  19658 completed.
 2006-04-12 00:56:59 16888  18364 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d -l
 2006-04-12 00:57:00 16888  18364 Begin backup logical log 10863.
 2006-04-12 00:57:00 16888  18364 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 00:57:10 16888  18364 Completed backup logical log 10863.
 2006-04-12 00:57:10 16888  18364 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 0 (0x
00)
 2006-04-12 01:22:44 34224  19658 Completed level 0 backup test_dbs.
 2006-04-12 01:22:47 34224  19658 Process 34224  19658 completed.
 2006-04-12 02:19:50 34250  23246 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d -l
 2006-04-12 02:19:50 34250  23246 Begin backup logical log 10864.
 2006-04-12 02:19:50 34250  23246 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 02:19:56 34250  23246 Completed backup logical log 10864.
 2006-04-12 02:19:56 34250  23246 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 0 (0x
00)
 2006-04-12 04:11:26 21288  19658 Completed level 0 backup prod_dbs.
 2006-04-12 04:11:27 21288  19658 Process 21288  19658 completed.
 2006-04-12 04:11:27 19658  34038 Begin backup logical log 10865.
 2006-04-12 04:11:27 19658  34038 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 04:11:28 19194  11898 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d -l
 2006-04-12 04:11:29 19194  11898 WARNING: A log backup is already
running. Can'
t start another.
 2006-04-12 04:11:32 19658  34038 Completed backup logical log 10865.
 2006-04-12 04:11:32 19658  34038 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 0 (0x
00)
 2006-04-12 04:11:34 19194  11898 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 152 (
0x98)



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Alexander Verkooijen
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:34 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

I do not claim to have any knowledge of Informix
but the behaviour you describe suggests that
you use a backup schema of a full backup every
8 days and incrementals/differentials on the
other 7 days.

Just guessing...

Regards,

Alexander

------------------------------------------------------------
Alexander Verkooijen
Senior Systems Programmer
High Performance Computing
SARA Computing & Networking Services
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Bell, Charles (Chip)
> Sent: maandag 17 april 2006 16:45
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?
> 
> Client OS AIX 4.3.3
> 
> Informix Dynamic Server Version 7.31.UD4
> 
> TDP for Informix v4.1.3 TSM v5.1.5
> 
>  
> 
> Why would the client back up in a way that is considered normal (45
> mins. to 1 hr), but every 8th day take well over 3 hrs? Has 
> anyone seen
> this happen every 'x'th day at their site?
> 
>  
> 
> God bless you!!! 
> 
> Chip Bell 
> Network Engineer I
> IBM Tivoli Certified Deployment Professional (ITSM 5.2)
> Baptist Health System 
> Birmingham, AL 
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