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Re: Windows server imaging

2005-07-27 16:19:49
Subject: Re: Windows server imaging
From: Egon Blouder <egonle AT NETSCAPE DOT NET>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:19:31 -0400
Hi,

one major problem I have/see in using 1) is the lack of restore of partition 
information. That has to be done manually. IMHO that should be a few lines of 
code that must Tivoli add to TSM.

Regards,
..--

TSM_User <tsm_user AT YAHOO DOT COM> wrote:

>Opps, below I said "you can" get disimilar hardware to work with ASR.  I meant 
>you can't.
>
>Sorry.
>
>TSM_User <tsm_user AT YAHOO DOT COM> wrote:
>1) You can use TSM to run an online image backup. Then TSM and WinPE to create 
>an offline image restore.
>
>2) You can use ASR.
>
>3) You can simply use the Install OS, Install Client, Restore system state, 
>then restore OS drive.
>
>You can get ASR to work with dissimilar hardware but you can run through an 
>In-Place upgrade after the image restore or after the regular restore. It is a 
>seperate mini install that you run after the restore from the MS installation 
>media. Basically it re-enumarates the hardware but leaves all the software 
>intact so your not prompted for server name, key and stuff like that the 
>second time around. I've used this method to go from old MCP motherboards to 
>new ACPI. I've went from single processor machines to dual. From one raid 
>controller to another. It all works.
>
>I have nothing against Cristie. I'll just say that when you go through the 
>process using the In-Place upgrade it is hard to justify the cost per server 
>to save a few hours. If Cristie was $25 US per server then I'd recommend you 
>get it for every server in your shop. But I belive the cost is many $100's 
>which I can't justify when the manual process works so well and only hads 5 
>minutes of work time and about 1.5 hours to the restore.
>
>Kyle
>
>
>
>
>"Prather, Wanda" wrote:
>My 2 cents:
>
>TSM recovery with Windows ASR (WIn2K3 and XP only, not Win2K) is
>terrific, because
>1) you don't have to create images ahead of time
>2) TSM saves the data you need every time it runs a backup
>3) it is not impacted by hardware changes
>4) it doesn't cost anything
>5) it doesn't' require additional software to be installed on
>the client
>
>BUT, if you are planning to use it in an offsite DR situation,
>you have the problem that Microsoft doesn't
>restoring the System Object from one machine to another.
>Full instructions for use are in the TSM client manual.
>
>Christie BMR may be better depending on your circumstances
>1) you have to walk through a process of saving the system
>config to TSM or a floppy BEFORE you need it
>2) it's another piece of software to be licensed, installed and
>configured on all your clients
>3) extra cost
>
>BUT, it's the onlye thing I know of that SUPPORTS a bare-metal
>restore from one Windows machine to the other.
>Could vastly simplify your offsite recovery at a DR site.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
>Stapleton, Mark
>Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:04 PM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: Windows server imaging
>
>
>I wouldn't bother spending the money. You can rebuild a Windows TSM
>client with just TSM in three majorly different ways, depending upon
>your circumstances, and a myriad of methods within each way.
>
>--
>Mark Stapleton (stapleton AT berbee DOT com)
>IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional
>Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005
>IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX
>Office 262.521.5627
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
>>Behalf Of Terry McColgan
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:14 PM
>>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>Subject: Re: Windows server imaging
>>
>>Christie BMR - t
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Richard Mochnaczewski
>>[mailto:Richard.Mochnaczewski AT STANDARDLIFE DOT CA]
>>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:40 AM
>>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>Subject: Windows server imaging
>>
>>
>>Hi Everybody,
>>
>>I've been reading up on the various image/restore methods for Windows
>>servers . What do users favour ?
>>
>>Rich
>>
>
>
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