Re: Native GUI for TSM 3.7 Design Request - Long post
1999-10-17 11:42:20
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Re: Native GUI for TSM 3.7 Design Request - Long post |
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peter jodda <oelsburg AT HOTMAIL DOT COM> |
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Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:42:20 PDT |
You made much effort do do your request.
But programmers don4t care about it.
From: JerryLawson <jlawson AT THEHARTFORD DOT COM>
Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Native GUI for TSM 3.7 Design Request - Long post
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:05:58 -0400
Date: October 15, 1999 Time: 10:51 AM
From: Jerry Lawson
The Hartford Insurance Group
(860) 547-2960 jlawson AT thehartford DOT com
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Warning - This is a long posting.
As you may remember, I posted a message last week about the lack of a
Native
GUI for the TSM 3.7 clients - I use the Win-32 client, and when I started
up
the GUI admin, and tried to close it, it failed. I have since found
another,
similar, and more serious failure with the 3.1 admin GUI once a client has
been upgraded to TSM 3.7. This had to do with Delete Filespace processing.
I wanted to delete some filespaces associated with a specific node. I
tried
to do what I have always done in this case - I set up an include criteria
for
the node in question, received back a list of filespaces, highlighted the
ones I wanted, and then went to edit pulldown, and selected "delete" I
received back the ANS8003 message, and when I looked in the error log it
told
me that the messages were missing from the repository. The filespaces were
not deleted.
I then attempted to do this with the web based client. The result was not
a
pretty picture. I can get a list of filespaces for a node, but I cannot
delete files from that list. I can delete filespaces from the list, but
must
type in the filespace name, and the node name for each individual entry.
This time I had approximately 25. I would like to meet the designer who
thinks this is an improvement. I can also use the CLI *which I ultimately
did) but the process is case sensitive. Such fun!
Needless to say, I went on a search to discover a way to get the native GUI
back, since I suspected the problem to be with our old friend, the message
repository, or DSCAMENG.TXT as we know it in the US. I have been
successful
with this, and I can share this if you are interested. Doing the
uninstall,
and reinstall had one problem - it cleaned up all of the registry entries
for
the GUI, so I had to spend time setting these all up again. I do not
recommend that if you can avoid it, and my process does.
When I posted the original note, I identified in a subsequent note that
Tivoli said that the GUI was no longer supported, but they would accept a
design request to add it back. The support center has accepted my request,
and the number assigned to it is REQ00075388. I have been informed that
you
can add your own endorsement to it if you contact your Tivoli
representative.
I encourage you to do so. I will append the text of the Design Request
below my signature.
In the meantime, thanks to every one who responded to the initial note.
The
only way we can get Tivoli to listen is if we make enough noise, so please
feel free to stop lurking in the background, and state your position.
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Jerry
Request title Administration GUI Client
Descriptive Information
Want or need The native GUI Admin client needs to be made
available
with TSM 3.7. Development activities on the native
GUI
need to be unfrozen, and functionality levels be
brought up to date wherever possible.
Benefit The native Admin GUI provides the fastest, easiest to
use
interface to Administrative functions. The web based
Admin client is slower, not as easy to use, lacks
filtering criteria, and is not as user friendly.
It also opens the door to problems caused by the web
browser itself.
Time limit Immediately
Solution Reinstate the ADSM V3 Admin GUI. Enhance it with the
new
Features for TSM 3.7, delivering this functionality
in
subsequent PTFs if necessary to avoid delaying the
return of a supported native GUI admin client..
Impact I cannot implement TSM 3.7 without a usable admin GUI
to
give to the local administrators who do the day to
day
support of ADSM/TSM clients.
Environment All TSM clients where the GUI is supported.
Clarification The Admin GUI is a key part of the administration of
TSM.
While there are some environments where having a web
based admin client is valuable, it is not a valid
solution to all environments. The proxy server is of
some help, but does not solve the basic problem,
missing functionality, and cannot avoid all web
browser
issues. Using the web based client for all admin
functions makes an administrator's job more
difficult, when the objective should be to make it
easier. The native GUI is a better, more consistent
interface with features such as windowing that cannot
be added to the web interface. Additionally, using a
web browser based admin places TSM at the mercy of
changes to web browsers that might impact operation
or
performance.
Business solution value
Ranking 5
Investment protection
value 5
End user productivity
value 5
Growth enablement value 4
Systems management value 5
Value An Admin client is provided to do one thing - to
allow
the
customer to manage the product. It's goal must be to
allow the customer to do this job in the most
efficient
manner possible. Failure to do so can result in a
product that may be great in functionality, but
completely unmanageable. While the web based GUI
does
not leave us with an unmanageable product, it does
significantly hamper our ability to manage the
product.
Reinstating the native GUI admin client will reduce
the
amount of time it takes administrate the various
functions of TSM. This equates to a definite
positive
value to any company, as it reduces the workload of
individuals who are already being pulled to many
ways.
The addition of support for new features of ADSM/TSM
will enhance the value even further.
Related information
Keywords Administrator Admin GUI native
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