ADSM-L

Re: problem with solaris 2.6

1998-06-19 07:03:29
Subject: Re: problem with solaris 2.6
From: Sheelagh Treweek <sheelagh.treweek AT COMPUTING-SERVICES.OXFORD.AC DOT UK>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:03:29 +0100
Eckhard,

I think this is all part of the same problem that Gavin posted to adsm-l
yesterday (see below) :  at Solaris 2.6, user filesystems are automatically
made as "loopback" filesystems (and this is also an option at Solaris 2.5
and 2.5.1).  The ADSM version 3 client is not handling these filesystems in
what I consider to be a sensible manner.

I have done some fairly extensive tests with the V3 and V2 client on Solaris
(version is irrelevant) with the behaviour/handling of loopback filesystems.

At V2 :  without a Domain statement and an implicit all-local, adsm incr
backs up /export/home/things and ignores /home/things.  I believe this is
reasonable.

At V3 :  ( and you need to get the latest fixtest version - see Gavin's
message), with the same scenario :  ADSM backs up the whole thing twice,
both as /export/home/thing and as /home/thing.

I believe this behaviour is unacceptable and in my PMR it has been suggested
that ADSM is working as designed and I should submit a design change request.

I think the design is broken and should be fixed to behave as the V2 client
did.

In addition, I think the expiration behaviour you are seeing is a bug in the
generally available 3.1.03 code which you may be using; the best available
is the IP21297T2 (for sol26) fixtest version - which is in the
adsm/fixtest/v3r1/sol/sol26 directory on index.stosys.ibm.com.

Hope this helps, Sheelagh
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>From owner-adsm-l AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU  Thu Jun 18 06:07:25 1998
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From: Gavin Ring <Gavin.Ring AT ALCATEL.COM DOT AU>
Subject: ADSM backing up the same data twice
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU

There was a thread a while back where the Solaris ADSM v3 client was
skipping directories during incremental backups.

The problem is described in APAR IC20712 and APAR IC20907. A new version of
the client code  was made available for download from the IBM
FTP server.

I have installed the new code and it does fix the problem of ADSM skipping
directories, however I have found a significant change in the way the V3
client works compared with the way the V2 client works.

In summary the ADSM v3 client can backup the same data TWICE.

For example.... we are using the automounter to mount home directories onto
the /home mount point.

I am seeing ADSM backup the /export/home1/x directory AND the /home/x
directory.

I was expecting ADSM to backup only /export/home1/ not the mount point
/home/x

This is the response from IBM......quote

 -----FS-------+dir++-file-
 /export/home1/uXXXX/fileXX
 .
 -----FS-----+file+
 /home/uXXXX/fileXX
 .
 /home/uXXXX is pointing to /export/home1/uXXXX similar to a symbolic
 link (without the option FOLLOWSYMBOLIC=NO) as a filesystem of type
 LOFS. Now when ADSM is doing it's incremental it doesn't detect the
 LOFS filesystem type and thus is backing up the files from both
filesystems it finds. This is a known restriction with this situation
(since version 2 already) and there are plans by another customer to
open a DCR on that.

.....unquote

I do not know if this problem is a SUN solaris problem only or if it works
in this way on other unix platforms. IBM are saying that it is working as
designed and to open a data change request (DCR)

Our environment is

ADSM server O/S:    OS/390 2.4
ADSM server:        ADSM for MVS 2.1.0.13
ADSM client O/S:    Sun Solaris 2.5.1
ADSM client:        3.1.0.3

Regards

Gavin

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> From owner-adsm-l AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU  Fri Jun 19 10:35:49 1998
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> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:26:39 +0200
> From: Eckhard Trinkaus <trinkaus AT HRZ.UNI-MARBURG DOT DE>
> Subject: problem with solaris 2.6
> Comments: cc: Eckhard Trinkaus <trinkaus AT surz22.HRZ.Uni-Marburg DOT DE>
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>
> Please help me to understand the following problem:
>
> We are running
> ADSM server 2.1.0.18,
> ADSM client 3.1.0.3 (Solaris 2.6)
>
> DOMAIN is all-local in dsm.opt,
> there is no AUTOMOUNT option in dsm.sys
>
> /export is a local filesystem,
> my home directory /export/home/trinkaus is mounted on /home/trinkaus
> via automounter.
>
> The following commands are excuted by root:
>
>
> dsmc selective /export/home/trinkaus/f
> and
> dsmc selective /home/trinkaus/f
>
> are generating two different active backups of file f
> (with different backup time stamps).
>
> dsmc incremental
>
> expires both backups (to status inactive).
>
> I don't understand why the backup of /export/home/trinkaus/f becomes inactive.
>
> With kind regards
>
> Eckhard Trinkaus
>
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