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[Veritas-bu] Re: Mac OSX Server client

2001-11-14 09:58:27
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Re: Mac OSX Server client
From: rmickle AT rms.moore DOT com (rmickle AT rms.moore DOT com)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:58:27 -0600
Tony

We have not installed or tested the Mac OSX client software yet, but we are
running backups on a OS 9 Server.  We are planing on starting to test the
OSX client in the near future.  After your messages are a couple of
messages that your Mac admin has gotten from a Veritas engineer through
Mac.com.  You might want to try and find the string he mentions at
Omnigroup MacOSX-admin.

Richard Mickle
UNIX Systems and Storage Admin.
Moore Response Marketing Services
A Division of Moore North America
920-339-1695
rmickle AT rms.moore DOT com

>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:25:30 +0800
>From: Tony Panetta <tony AT xcitelogic.com DOT au>
>To: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
>Subject: [Veritas-bu] Mac OSX Server client
>
>We are an IT consultanting company in Perth, Western Australia,
>specialising in the publishing industry. It was welcomed news from Jeff
>Holmbeck that
>Veritas released a client for  Mac OSX Server.
>We are currently proposing a Mac OSX Server based solution to a client
>running Veritas Net Backup as their main backup system and their IT people
>were hesitant to install a MacOSX
>Server because there is not much information regarding its success.
>Does anyone have any reference sites or test result information I can use
>to supplement our proposal?
>Your help would be greatly appreciated.
>> Tony Panetta
>> IT Management and Consultancy
>
>Xcite Logic
>Independent IT consultants specialising in digital production >...
Catering
>for professionals
>
>tel  >  08 9204 3700
>fax >  08 9204 3711
>web >  www.xcitelogic.com.au

----- Forwarded by Jeremy Wellner/RMS/MOORE on 11/07/01 09:21 AM -----
                                                                                
                        
                    Jeff Holmbeck                                               
                        
                    <jeffholmbeck AT mac DOT com>           To:     "R. Emory 
Lundberg" <sempai AT mac DOT com>,      
                    Sent by:                          macos-x-server AT 
lists.apple DOT com                    
                    macos-x-server-admin@lists       cc:                        
                        
                    .apple.com                       Subject:     Re: veritas 
netbackup                 
                                                                                
                        
                                                                                
                        
                    11/03/01 10:12 PM                                           
                        
                                                                                
                        
                                                                                
                        




At 18:55 -0500 2001-11-03, R. Emory Lundberg wrote:
>hey.
>
>i was installing Veritas netbackup on some Sparc's and FreeBSD/i386
>machines at work this week and noticed an OSXS folder on the
>installer CD.
>
>is this a binary fro OS X Server 1.0-2X or for 10.X?

The CD contains the NetBackup 3.4 client for Mac OS X Server 1.0 and 1.2.
(Don't install it on Mac OS X 10.x.  It will crash miserably.)

The latest NetBackup 3.4 patch
(http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/237386.htm) includes a client for
Mac OS X 10.x.


>i was wondering why all the hassle and crying if there *is* a
>commercial vendor supporting the platform.  then again, i could have
>missed the shocking conclusion to the thread.

There was a "lively" backup thread on the Omnigroup MacOSX-admin list a
couple a weeks ago that included a discussion of NetBackup.

A couple of caveats.  The NetBackup code is a client (or agent) only.
There
is no NetBackup server for Mac OS X.  (You can't backup to a tape drive or
robot connected to your Mac.)

The NetBackup  Mac OS X client is very UNIXy.  It does not have a Cocoa or
Carbon GUI.  Be prepared to use the command line.

On the other hand, it DOES backup and restore resource forks and HFS
attributes.  (It would be irrelevant to this discussion if it didn't!)

Disclaimer:  I work for VERITAS.  As several folks from the Omnigroup list
pointed out, we've done a lousy job making this information available to
the Mac OS X community.  We're trying to improve that.

--

jeffholmbeck AT mac DOT com
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----- Forwarded by Jeremy Wellner/RMS/MOORE on 11/07/01 09:21 AM -----
                                                                                
            
                    Jeff Holmbeck                                               
            
                    <jeffholmbeck@       To:     jwellner AT rms.moore DOT com  
                   
                    mac.com>             cc:                                    
            
                                         Subject:     Re: Netbackup for OS X    
            
                    11/06/01 07:50                                              
            
                    PM                                                          
            
                                                                                
            
                                                                                
            




Generally, you install the Mac OS X (or Mac OS X Server) client the same
way that you do for our other UNIX clients.  Your documentation should
include a UNIX client installation section.

If you have a UNIX NetBackup server, you typically "push" the client
installs using rsh or ftp.

If you have an NT NetBackup server (or you don't want to use rsh or ftp),
you typically install directly from the CD.

That said, we still have some issues:

Most folks don't like to turn on ftpd or rshd on Mac OS X.

The 3.4 CD only contains the Mac OS X Server 1.x client not a 10.x client.
(Do you have Server 1.x or 10.x?)

You'll need to get the latest 3.4 patch to get the Mac OS X 10.x client.
The same client is used for both 10.x and Server 10.x.

I'll see if our support guys have a Tech Note on the subject.


At 10:00 -0600 2001-11-06, jwellner AT rms.moore DOT com wrote:
>Hi Jeff,
>
>Do you have some installation documentation for the OS X Server version of
>the netbackup client?  We have NetBackup Datacenter 3.4.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeremy Wellner
>Macintosh Support Specialist
>Moore Response Marketing Services
>Jeremy.Wellner AT email.moore DOT com
>Direct Line -- 920-339-1696
>
>EMERGENCY Contact Information:
>Page -- 920-399-7029
>Cell -- 920-360-9540


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jeffholmbeck AT mac DOT com





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