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[Networker] FW: [Networker] max parallelism for a jukebox

2003-03-07 18:13:10
Subject: [Networker] FW: [Networker] max parallelism for a jukebox
From: Andrew McGeorge <Andrew.McGeorge AT ASBBANK.CO DOT NZ>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:11:54 +1300
George,

I have never used a Library without barcode reader support. However, the
command I specified below definitely works as described by me on a library
with barcode reader support. I use it to select particular drives to use in
our library as it is shared by the server and a storage node and I like to
leave one drive available for each for restores when labelling or
inventorying.

I thought I might quote from the Field Help of a 6.1.1 server.

========================================================
Max Parallelism
Determine the number of simultaneous operations in a single nsrjb process.
Note that some jukeboxes can only handle one operation at a time.
========================================================

Interestingly it does not mention anything about drive numbers, in fact does
not even mention drives.

It would also seem to shed very little light on our current discussion.

Regards

Andrew McGeorge
Senior Systems Specialist
Group Technology Operations
ASB Bank Limited


-----Original Message-----
From: George Sinclair [mailto:George.Sinclair AT NOAA DOT GOV]
Sent: 8 March 2003 11:33:AM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] max parallelism for a jukebox


Robert,

I have never tried a label operation from the command line, but I have
done an inventory on as many as 10 slots from the command line, and I
have never once seen NetWorker use more than one device even with max
parallelism set to as high as 3, as is the case with our LTO library
with three LTO drives. I thought you had to specify the device, in which
case it seems unlikely that NetWorker would use more than the one
specified. If NetWorker will in fact do what you say, what will happen
if you are not using bar codes? What would prevent tapes from being
labeled out of sequence if you have multiple label operations going on
at one time? I thought that the max parellism simply meant that you
could launch that many separate nsrjb processes, each inventorying or
labeling to a separate device that none of the other nsrjb processes was
currently using, but you would have to specify the device per nsrjb
process, not just launch one and expect it to somehow fork itself to the
other drives. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here? I'm not trying
to beat a dead horse, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing out
on something that I could be taking advantage of.

Thanks.

George

Robert Maiello wrote:
>
> George,
>
> If you have 4 drives and you issue the command:
>
> nsrjb -Y -L -b 'my pool' -S 1-3
>
> it should label the tapes in parallel (with the Jukebox Max Parallelism
set
> to 3 as
> discussed in this thread).  The one arm places tapes in the next drive
while
> Networker is labeling the first etc..
>
> It depends on your jukebox though and the features it supports.  The
> BreeceHill Q47 I had would only use one drive when labeling.  I'm not sure
> which jukebox feature it is that governs this though?
>
> Robert Maiello
> Thomson Healthcare
>
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:11:23 -0500, George Sinclair
> <George.Sinclair AT NOAA DOT GOV> wrote:
>
> >I'm a little confused, and I want to make sure I'm clear about this. You
> >said:
> >
> >"For instance if you set this value
> >> to 4 and kicked off one nsrjb operation all of the 4 tape drives
> >> would be used (if you were performing operations on 4 or more slots)."
> >
> >When I run an inventory operation, I have to indicate which device to
> >use regardless of whether I'm running in the window or the command line.
> >It shouldn't matter how many slots I'm inventorying. NetWorker will only
> >use the one device provided. It will never use the other devices unless
> >I run inventories there, too. I've never seen NetWorker use any device
> >other than the one you chose regardless of how many slots you're
> >inventorying and or what the value of t he max parallelism is. Didn't
> >you mean to say that all of the 4 tape drives would be used if you were
> >performing operations from 4 separate nsrjb processes, e.g. 4
> >simultaneous inventory operations?
> >
> >George
> >
> >Carston Locher wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> I want to clarify things because from this statement I can
> >> see you have confusion and are being misdirected.
> >>
> >> The "jukebox max parallelism" has nothing to do with backup/recover.
> >> It only has to do with nsrjb and inventory/label.  It is the
> >> number of devices nsrjb will use to perform these particular
> >> operations (backup/recover).  The default setting by NetWorker
> >> is "# of drives -1 (in your case would be 3).  This would allow
> >> inventory/label to use 3 devices and one would be left in reserve
> >> for backups/restores.  You can change the value to 4 so all drives
> >> would be used if you like.  There is no value in changing the
> >> max parallelism to be greater than the # of drives in your jukebox.
> >>
> >> Davina is actually slightly incorrect in that it is not the #
> >> of nsrjb processes allowed.  For instance if you set this value
> >> to 4 and kicked off one nsrjb operation all of the 4 tape drives
> >> would be used (if you were performing operations on 4 or more slots).
> >>
> >> Please give me the name of your consultant.  You don't have to
> >> send it to the group.  I just want to make sure the person gets
> >> more education before they are allowed to talk to any more
> >> customers.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Carston
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Legato NetWorker discussion
> >> [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU]On Behalf Of Jim Lane
> >> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:35 AM
> >> To: NETWORKER AT LISTMAIL.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> >> Subject: [Networker] max parallelism for a jukebox
> >>
> >> I've just read a couple of posts on this from yesterday and I'm
> >> confused. the replies tended to suggest that this value should be
> >> related in some way to the number of drives in the jukebox that
> >> Networker should use for backup, as against leave free for ad hoc
usage,
> >> restores etc. I was told by the Legato consultant that this value is
the
> >> maximum number of saveset streams that can be directed to all the
drives
> >> in the jukebox at once. on that basis this number is supposed to be set
> >> at or above the sum of the "target sessions" for all the tape drives.
at
> >> least that's what I was told. on that theory the Legato guy set the
"max
> >> parallelism" in my 4-drive STK 9710 to 32. now I'm worried. who's right
> >> here? am I over-specifying this value?
> >>
> >> Jim Lane
> >> Sr. Technical Consultant
> >> Network Services
> >> Toronto Hydro
> >> office: (416)-542-2820
> >> cell: (416)-896-8576
> >>
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