Hi,

I maybe confused here but why is everybody talking about a backupset
tape.  It appears to me that the tape in question based on the "q vol
f=d" output she included is a member of the "TAPE_NDMP_OFFSITE" storage
pool.  I can only assume that the "TAPE_NDMP_OFFSITE" storage pool is a
copy pool based on its name.  Therefore, backupsets have nothing to do
with this question.  It is a matter of handling off site tapes
appropriately and I think DRM with commands like "move drmedia" will do
that the best.

If I am missing something here please tell me.

Thank You.

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Joe Pendergast wrote:

I am sensing some major confusion here.  The backupset is a separate tape
that contains its own copy of the current active data with a database up
front to locate files.  The tape can be restored with the client software
without need for a TSM server.  The tape will never be empty till you check
it in after its retention time.  Retention time is only the minimum
retention along with how long the TSM database will remember the tape.  The
tape is fully useable after the retention time is gone.

Backupset was created for those old school individuals that want a self
contained snapshot of a system at the time the tape is created.  Once
created it is a separate entity.  It requires a TSM client to restore the
tape, but is not part of the TSM server after creation.

I hope my information is helpfull and accurate.  I have only been doing
this for a few years, and over that time found backupsets very usefull in
certain DR scenarios.




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Hi Bill!

I have ACSLS, so I guess I'll have to eject the tapes through that software
method, but how do I know when they have expired and need to be brought
back onsite?  It's a little confusing because it's not in a stgpool, so I
won't have knowledge of when it's empty.  Any ideas?  Thanks!

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Backupsets are not considered DRMEDIA by DRM. You can't use MOVE MEDIA on
them either because they do not belong to a storage pool.
You would have to write your own scripts to look for the backupset tapes
and then update the volhistory record for that tape with a
LOCATION= parameter.

You should be able to do a CHECKOUT LIBVOLUME on the newly created
backupset tape. It's still part of the library inventory.

The only product I know of that can manage backupset volumes for vaulting
is Autovault from http://www.coderelief.com

Bill Boyer
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Joni,

My first question is are you licensed for the "Extended Edition" of TSM,
because it includes DRM support which will make your life much easier
when it comes to managing off site tapes and doing DR testing.  In
particular you would be using "move drmedia" commands instead of "move
media" commands. The "move media" commands are more useful for handling
on site primary pool tapes that need to be moved out side of the library
for whatever reason.  Whereas the "move drmedia" commands are designed
to do exactly what you are trying to do.

I sent you an email earlier with my contact info in it.  If you would
like feel free to call me and we can discuss these issues over the phone.

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Joni Moyer wrote:

Hello Everyone!

I have the volume N00043 that I have sent to the vault by using the move
media command.  I will be having a DR test and will be taking the tape(s)
to the DR site.  The volume is read-only and is mountable, but not in the
library.  Will I have to do any updates to the tapes if I want to mount
this tape at our DR site?  I was thinking no, but I just thought I would
ask.  Thanks!

Volume      State                         Location               Automated
LibN
Name                                                             ame

--------    --------------------------    -------------------
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N00043      Mountable not in library      Vital Records, Inc.

            Volume Name: N00043
           Storage Pool Name: TAPE_NDMP_OFFSITE
           Device Class Name: NASDEV
     Estimated Capacity (MB): 515,035.1
     Scaled Capacity Applied:
                    Pct Util: 99.9
               Volume Status: Filling
                      Access: Read-Only
      Pct. Reclaimable Space: 0.1
             Scratch Volume?: Yes
             In Error State?: No
    Number of Writable Sides: 1
     Number of Times Mounted: 36
           Write Pass Number: 1
   Approx. Date Last Written: 03/18/05 20:53:54
      Approx. Date Last Read: 03/17/05 12:55:14
         Date Became Pending:
      Number of Write Errors: 0
       Number of Read Errors: 0
             Volume Location: Vital Records, Inc.


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