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[Veritas-bu] jobs not firing with open windows

2005-07-14 23:53:39
Subject: [Veritas-bu] jobs not firing with open windows
From: Eric.Ljungblad AT CopleyPress DOT com (Eric Ljungblad)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:53:39 -0700
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Suggest using the calendar based schedule with Allow Retries After run
day Checked.

Also,  the Start Window is just that a Start Window,  If the backup is
still active after the backup window closes it will still

Run until completed. The end time is not an actual end time - but rather
the latest time the backup can start, even if pending in the

Activity monitor it will bomb 196 if it is not active by the end time.

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Eric

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Paul
Keating
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Veritas List
Subject: [Veritas-bu] jobs not firing with open windows

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Ok, so I'm not looking for a critique of my backups windows, since the
configuration was an accident (a window opening was added to do an
impromptu FULL during the week, and then accidentally got left there.)
but I'm just wondering if anyone has thoughts on the behaviour of the
scheduler starting jobs.

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My FULL window for a certain servers is 01:00 Saturday morning to 05:00
on Sunday morning, with a frequency of 4 days.

This ensures that if a "make up" manual FULL is run on a Monday, the
frequency is short enough that the scheduled FULL will still run the
following Friday night (Saturday morning)

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So, because of an issue a few weeks ago, a window was added from 01:00
to 05:00 on Wednesday morning to allow a FULL to re-reun because of two
previous failures.

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so because this window wasn't removed, it ran agin the following week,
but here's the timestamps of the images:

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June 29 - 02:27

July 2 - 11:43     (this is fine, and what I would expect....4 days and
7 hours after the previous one)

July 6 - 02:38    (this one is interesting....3 days and 15 hours after
the previous)

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here's where I'm confused.

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July 9 the window opens again at 01:00 and is open untill July 10 at
05:00, which is 4 days +2 hours after the previsou backup.

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if the scheduler looks for new jobs every 10 minutes, it should have
kicked off a full on July 10th, @ approx 02:48 at the latest, correct? 2
hours and 10 minutes before the window closed.

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Anyhow, the Wednesday window is now gone, so this won't re-occur, but
regardless, I didn't get my Friday night FULL.

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Any ideas why the job didn't kick off on the 10th??

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Paul


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also,&nbsp; the Start Window is =
just that a
Start Window,&nbsp; If the backup is still active after the backup =
window closes it
will still<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Run until completed. The end time =
is not
an actual end time &#8211; but rather the latest time the backup can =
start,
even if pending in the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Activity monitor it will bomb 196 =
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not active by the end time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 11, =
2005 9:05
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] =
jobs not
firing with open windows</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ok, so I'm not looking for a critique of my backups =
windows,
since the configuration was an accident (a window opening was added to =
do an
impromptu FULL during the week, and then accidentally got left there.) =
but I'm
just wondering if anyone has thoughts on the behaviour of the scheduler
starting jobs.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>My FULL window for a certain&nbsp;servers is 01:00 =
Saturday
morning to 05:00 on Sunday morning, with a frequency of 4 =
days.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>This ensures that if a &quot;make up&quot; manual =
FULL is
run on a Monday, the frequency is short enough that the scheduled FULL =
will
still run the following Friday night (Saturday =
morning)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>So, because of an issue a few weeks ago, a window was =
added
from 01:00 to 05:00 on Wednesday morning to allow a FULL to re-reun =
because of
two previous failures.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so because this window wasn't removed, it ran agin =
the
following week, but here's the timestamps of the =
images:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>June 29 -&nbsp;02:27</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>July 2 - 11:43&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (this is fine, =
and
what I would expect....4 days and 7 hours after the previous =
one)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>July 6 - 02:38&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (this one is
interesting....3 days and 15 hours after the =
previous)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>here's where I'm =
confused.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>July 9 the window opens again at 01:00 and is open =
untill
July 10 at 05:00, which is 4 days +2 hours after the previsou =
backup.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>if the scheduler&nbsp;looks for&nbsp;new jobs every =
10
minutes, it should have kicked off a full on July 10th, @ approx 02:48 =
at the
latest, correct? 2 hours and 10 minutes before the window =
closed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Anyhow, the Wednesday window is now gone, so this =
won't
re-occur, but regardless, I didn't get my Friday night =
FULL.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Any ideas why the job didn't kick off on the =
10th??</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Paul</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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