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For our environment the fragment size has been at 5 Gig for 2 years.
DR testing returned great full system restore times as well as
individual file and filesystem restores.
=20
The development servers are the only ones using multiplexing and their
restore times have always been adequate.
=20
Thanks,
Mark Eisenhardt
-----Original Message-----
From: Walker, Bobby L [mailto:bobby.l.walker AT lmco DOT com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:00 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Max Fragment size
=09
=09
What (if anything) should you set the max fragment size on UNIX
and WINTEL when multiplexing your backups. I want to make sure that I
don't harm the backup performance by playing with the fragment size.
=20
=09
_____ =20
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Coco,
Samuel (Cont, ARL/CISD)
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark; Dave Markham;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Max Fragment size
=20
We have been using a 2 Gig Fragment for about 7 to 9 months now
and have seen very good results.
=20
=20
Thank you,
=20
=20
Samuel J. Coco, STG
Functional Area Manager, ARL
Sr UNIX Administrator
BELL 301 394-1151 DSN 290
CELL (B) 240 398-7121 / (H)443 496-1623
HOME 410 604-2415
Email scoco AT arl.army DOT mil
-----Original Message-----
From: Donaldson, Mark
[mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:54 AM
To: 'Dave Markham'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Max Fragment size
Each fragment is separately tracked in the catalog so
having chunks too small makes for larger catalogs. I think there's some
header information on-tape per fragment, too, so backup sizes might
increase a bit.
=20
Still, I think fragments are a big improvement to
restore times are are well worth it. 2 to 4 Gig seems to be a common
suggested size.
=20
-M
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Markham [mailto:dave.markham AT icl DOT net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:50 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Max Fragment size
I have seen in a few docs about setting this max
fragment size to say 2 gig or anything less than the max file size your
OS can handle. How I understand it is that this will then improve
restore times as it can skip along these 2 gig chunks until it finds the
section it needs and then begin a read through of that chunk to find the
files needed and start restore.
=20
My question is 1. Am I right in my thinking? and
2. What would be the downside to this? If it improves restore times what
reason is there to not set it?
=20
Thanks
=20
Environments:-
=20
Netbackup 3.2, Solaris 8 Using SUN L1000 4 DLT
7000 tape units
=20
Netbackup 4.5 FP6 Solaris 8 Using SUN L25 and
LTO drive
=20
Dave
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years.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D127245120-17022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>DR=20
testing returned great full system restore times as well as individual =
file and=20
filesystem restores.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D127245120-17022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>The=20
development servers are the only ones using multiplexing and their =
restore times=20
have always been adequate.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D127245120-17022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" =
color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Mark=20
Eisenhardt</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Walker, Bobby L=20
[mailto:bobby.l.walker AT lmco DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February =
17, 2004=20
3:00 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
[Veritas-bu] Max Fragment size<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What (if =
anything)=20
should you set the max fragment size on UNIX and WINTEL when =
multiplexing your=20
<SPAN class=3DGramE>backups.</SPAN> I want to make sure that I =
don’t harm the=20
backup performance by playing with the fragment=20
size.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">=20
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:place=20
w:st=3D"on">Coco</st1:place>, Samuel (Cont, ARL/CISD)<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, February 17, =
2004 11:20=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Donaldson, =
Mark; Dave=20
Markham; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Veritas-bu] Max =
Fragment=20
size</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We have =
been using a=20
2 Gig Fragment for about 7 to 9 months now and have seen very good=20
results.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thank=20
you,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Samuel J. Coco,=20
STG</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Functional Area Manager, =
ARL</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sr UNIX=20
Administrator</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BELL =
301=20
394-1151 DSN 290</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">CELL (B) 240 398-7121 / =
(H)443=20
496-1623</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">HOME 410=20
604-2415</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Email <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:scoco AT arl.army DOT mil">scoco AT arl.army DOT
mil</A></SPAN></FONT><o=
:p></o:p></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; =
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] <BR><B><SPAN
=
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, February 17, =
2004 11:54=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Dave =
Markham';=20
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Veritas-bu] Max =
Fragment=20
size</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Each =
fragment is=20
separately tracked in the catalog so having chunks too small makes =
for=20
larger catalogs. I think there's some header information =
on-tape per=20
fragment, too, so backup sizes might increase a=20
bit.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Still, I =
think=20
fragments are a big improvement to restore times are are well worth=20
it. 2 to 4 Gig seems to be a common suggested=20
size.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">-M</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in"><P=20
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B> Dave=20
Markham [mailto:dave.markham AT icl DOT net]<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, February 17, =
2004 4:50=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu] Max =
Fragment=20
size</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have seen in a few =
docs=20
about setting this max fragment size to say 2 gig or anything less =
than=20
the max file size your OS can handle. How I understand it is that =
this=20
will then improve restore times as it can skip along these 2 gig =
chunks=20
until it finds the section it needs and then begin a read through =
of that=20
chunk to find the files needed and start=20
restore.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My question is 1. Am =
I right=20
in my thinking? and 2. What would be the downside to this? If it =
improves=20
restore times what reason is there to not set=20
it?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Thanks</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Environments:-</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Netbackup 3.2, =
Solaris 8 Using=20
SUN L1000 4 DLT 7000 tape units</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Netbackup 4.5 FP6 =
Solaris 8=20
Using SUN L25 and LTO drive</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Dave</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><=
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