Re: [Networker] ALL Clients suddenly started failing
2008-10-06 12:23:51
Hello,
On windows , its combination of how your TCP IP settings are setup and
name resolution is configured, on networker side, i believe if the clients
are created with FQDN then host file is consulted first, if they are short
name clients, DNS first.
Don't forget about alias settings within a client ( add all known aliases
of the client), if DNS returns a different client name if any C-Names
have been configured for a host, the backups can fail also. You will need
to educate the Windows admins to notify you if and when any new names are
configured for a given host.
HTH
"Goslin, Paul" <pgoslin AT CINCOM DOT COM>
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Re: ALL Clients suddenly started failing
That may be very well what we have to do....
I opened a ticket with our DNS keepers, and they've responded that they
see no problems over the weekend with DNS... That does not explain why 90%
of our backups failed with DNS related errors... How should I respond to
people who are asking 'why did our backups fail ??' I can't provide a
reason other than apparent DNS issues... Which if it was really a DNS
problem, other things besides backups would have had problems also, but
nothing else did... To me, it's a Networker problem... I hate it when
Networker backups fail and you can't tell why after the fact...
Is there anything special that has to be done to make networker use a
combination of a local hosts file plus DNS ??
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> [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On Behalf Of Coty, Edward
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:16 AM
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> How about using local hosts files and then DNS. This way if
> you miss something with updating your local host files then
> hopefully DNS will pick it up. We use DNS primarily here but
> in a DR situation we have relied on local host files and not
> DNS. You can maintain both so you have some redundancy in
> your name resolution.
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> [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On Behalf Of Davina Treiber
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:40 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Networker] ALL Clients suddenly started failing
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> Goslin, Paul wrote:
> > While I agree that maintaining a client host file is a
> PITA.... It's not that much effort in my experience... And
> worth it in the long run. Unless you have a very dynamic
> network with backup clients constantly being added / removed....
>
> If you believe that then you are perfectly at liberty to
> convert your environment to use hosts files. However from my
> experience it will be a nightmare. As an example consider the
> case when you decide to add a new storage node and you have
> to add that address to the hosts file on 600 clients. I would
> not want to be the one tasked with that. OK perhaps your
> environment is not that large, but that just illustrates the
> fact that hosts files do not scale and DNS does.
>
> >
> > I feel it's more practical than naïve... I now have a
> weekend of failed backups due to failed DNS lookups... I have
> no control over the DNS server... As long as the client is
> up and responding on the proper ports, Networker should
> simply back it up.... What does it matter if the reverse
> lookup fails, and how is that more significant than backing
> up your companies' data ???
> >
>
> The point of the reverse lookup is to verify to each machine
> that the other machines are what they say they are. Not
> everyone agrees that this is the best security method, but
> you have other options for this now anyway.
>
> What else in your network stopped working when DNS went down?
> In most organisations this would generate a call-out and
> someone would be fixing it toute-suite.
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