On Tuesday 30 July 2013 22:40:16 pietersnld wrote:
> Dan Langille wrote
> > This affects only FreeBSD users.
> > 
> > At present, when upgrading sysutils/bacula-server or
> > sysutils/bacula-client, the port/package will stop bacula-dir & bacula-sd
> > (or bacula-fd respectively).  This is done as part of the uninstall before
> > doing the subsequent install.
> > 
> > I think this is not the ideal thing to do.  Here are two example scenarios
> > under the current situation:
> > 
> > 1 - when you're upgrading several servers, you get monitoring systems
> > telling you that the process has stopped running… annoying
> > 2 - when you upgrading in a FreeBSD jail *HOST*, the current approach will
> > also stop the corresponding processes in any jails
> > 
> > #1 is annoying. 
> > 
> > #2 is downright unexpected.
> > 
> > I propose that we don't stop the processes at all.  Leave it up to the
> > sysadmin to do the right thing.
> > 
> > They can decide to:
> > 
> > portupgrade
> > restart
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > stop
> > portupgrade
> > start
> > 
> > But this change gives them the choice.
> > 
> > Please discuss.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Dan Langille - http://langille.org
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Most of the ports on FreeBSD stop when you upgrade them. When I upgrade
> bacula I always restart fd, dir and sd after upgrading otherwise the new
> program is not loaded and the old version is still used. If that's the
> behavior you want why upgrade in the first place.
> In my opinion its the right thing to do when uninstalling a port otherwise
> the program is still running even if its removed! Did a rm -rf once on the
> wrong directory and all programs kept running. Had to reinstall them all
> because after a reboot they would not start again because the executables
> were missing.
> I think sysadmins will know what to do when upgrading. 
> 
> Greetings,
> Pieter

To my mind it's not a problem at all when programs keep running after upgrade. 
Sometimes it's even good, because whatever these program do while upgrading, 
they can peacefully finish doing it (eg. SD accepting a backup).

If I want to make sure that the program isn't running while upgrading, I just 
stop it before upgrading.

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