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Re: [Bacula-users] LTO3 tape capacity (variable?)

2012-09-25 12:45:37
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] LTO3 tape capacity (variable?)
From: Stephen Thompson <stephen AT seismo.berkeley DOT edu>
To: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:43:12 -0700


Thanks everyone for the suggestions, they at least give me somewhere to 
look, as I was running low on ideas.


More info...

The tape in question have only been used once or twice.

The library is a StorageTek whose SLConsole reports no media (or drive) 
errors, though I will look into those linux-based tools.

Our Sun/Oracle service engineer claims that our drives do not require 
cleaning tapes.  Does that sound legit?

Our throughput is pretty reasonable for our hardware -- we do use disk 
staging and get something like 60Mb/s to tape.

Lastly, the tapes that get 200 vs 800 are from the same batch of tapes, 
same number of uses, and used by the same pair of SL500 drives.  That's 
primarily why I wondered if it could be data dependent (or a bacula bug).


thanks!
Stephen


On 09/25/12 02:29, Cejka Rudolf wrote:
>>> We've been using LTO3 tapes with bacula for a few years now.  Recently I've
>>> noticed how variable our tape capacity it, ranging from 200-800 Gb.
>>>    Is that strictly governed by the compressibility of the actual data being
>>> backed up?
>
> Hello,
>    the lower bound 200 GB on 400 GB LTO-3 tapes is not possible due
> to the drive compression, because it always compares, if compressed
> data are shorter that original. In other case, it writes data uncompressed.
> So, in all cases, you should see atleast 400 000 000 000 bytes written
> on all tapes.
>
>>> Or is there some chance that bacula isn't squeezing as much
>>> onto my tapes as I would expect? 200Gb is not very much!
>
> In bacula, look mainly for the reasons, why there is just 200 GB written.
> If the tape is full, think about these:
>
> - Weared tapes. Typical tape service life is written as 200 full cycles.
>    However, read
>    http://www.xma4govt.co.uk/Libraries/Manufacturer/ultriumwhitepaper_EEE.sflb
>    where they experienced problems with some tapes just only after
>    30 cycles! How many cycles could you have with your tapes?
>
> - Do you use disk staging, so that tape writes are done at full speed?
>    Do you have a good disk staging? Considering using SSDs for staging
>    is very wise. If data rate is lower that 1/3 to 1/2 of native tape
>    speed (based on drive vendor, HP or IBM), then drive has to perform
>    tape repositions, which means another important excessive drive and
>    tape wearing.
>
>    My experiences are, that even HW RAID-0 with four 10k disks could not
>    be sufficient and when there are data writes and reads in parallel,
>    it could not put 80 MB/s to the drive, typically just 50-70 MB/s,
>    which is still acceptable for LTO-3, but not good.
>
>    Currently, I have 4 x 450 GB SSDs HW RAID-0 with over 1500 GB/s without
>    problem running writes and reads in parallel and just after that I hope
>    that it is really sufficient for >= LTO-3 staging and putting drives and
>    tapes wearing to minimum.
>
> - Dirty heads. You can enforce cleaning cycle, but then return to the
>    two points above and other suggestiong, like using some monitoring
>    like ltt on Linux (or I have some home made reporting tool using
>    camcontrol on FreeBSD), where it would be possible to ensure, that
>    your problem are weared tapes, or something else.
>
> Best regards.
>


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