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Re: [BackupPC-users] Newbie setup questions

2011-03-10 23:25:10
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Newbie setup questions
From: Rob Poe <rob AT poeweb DOT com>
To: backuppc-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:56:52 -0600
I'm using RSYNC to do backups of 2 BPC servers.  It works swimmingly, 
you plug the USB drive into the BPC server, it auto-mounts, emails that 
it's starting, does an RSYNC dump (with delete), flushes the buffers, 
dismounts and emails.



On 3/10/2011 8:35 PM, hansbkk AT gmail DOT com wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Michael Conner<mdc1952 AT gmail DOT com>  
> wrote:
>> That is good to know. Actually things are a little better than I thought, 
>> the spare machine is Dell Dimension 2400 with a  Pentium 4, max 2 gb memory. 
>> So I guess I could slap a new bigger drive into it and use it. My basic plan 
>> is to get backups going to one machine and then dupe those to an NAS 
>> elsewhere in the building. While we have a small staff, our building is 
>> 62,000 sq ft with three floors, so I can get them physically separated even 
>> if not really off site. For the web server, we have a two drive raid set up 
>> with two spare drive bays. Besides backing up with BPC, I would also dupe 
>> the drive on a schedule and take off site.
>
> To expand on Jeffrey's comment below - the idea of "duping" your
> backups is fraught with issues when the BPC filesystem gets past a
> certain size.
>
> To handle the creation of a redundant backup, I would advise one of
> the following:
>
> A - Periodically use BPC to run a full backup set to a different
> target filesystem - this is simplest and quite likely the fastest, and
> only becomes an issue if you have a limited time window - in which
> case LVM snapshotting can help as Jeffrey mentioned.
>
> B - use a block-level cloning process (like DD or its derivatives, or
> Ghost-like COTS programs if that's more comfortable for you, to do
> partition copying to a removable drive. Some use temporary RAID1
> mirrors, but I don't recommend it.
>
> C - a script included with BPC called BackupPC_tarPCCopy, designed to
> do exactly this process.
>
> Where you run into problems is trying to copy the hardlinked BPC
> filesystem over at the **file level** - even rsync will choke when
> you've got millions and millions of hardlinks to the same inodes to
> keep track of.
>
> BTW even if you don't do snapshots, you should use LVM from the
> beginning as the basis for your new BPC target filesystem, gives you
> future flexibility to avoid having to do the above any more than
> necessary.
>
> Hope this helps. . .
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
> <backuppc AT kosowsky DOT org>  wrote:
>> Keep in mind the point that Les made regarding backing up BackupPC
>> archives. Due to the hard link structure, the fastest way to back up
>> any reasonably large backup is at the partition level. This also makes
>> it hard to enlarge your archive space should you outgrow your
>> disk. One good solution is to use lvm since you can
>> enlarge/expand/move partitions across multiple disks. You can also use
>> lvm to create partition snapshots that can then be replicated as backups.
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