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Re: [ADSM-L] Should I upgrade to 7.1.8.x ??? (on the client end only)

2018-01-04 07:46:38
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Should I upgrade to 7.1.8.x ??? (on the client end only)
From: Del Hoobler <hoobler AT US.IBM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 07:45:04 -0500
Here are a few links that might help:

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSEQVQ_8.1.2/srv.install/r_srv_knowsec-aix.html

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg22004844



Del

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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 01/04/2018 
03:37:53 AM:

> From: "Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM>
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Date: 01/04/2018 03:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Should I upgrade to 7.1.8.x ??? (on the client end only)
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> 
> I too read all the previous posts, but I still don't know what to 
> do. Your mail also indicates that your upgrade planning is based on 
> several assumptions and I think it is really time for IBM to jump in
> here. I think someone from development should explain a little bit 
> about the new security design and tell us how we should upgrade 
> without impact. Which components in which order to which recommended 
level.
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM Storage Engineering
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Deschner, Roger Douglas
> Sent: donderdag 4 januari 2018 0:14
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: Should I upgrade to 7.1.8.x ??? (on the client end only)
> 
> Test! Test! Test! Search this forum for previous posts about this. 
> There are a bunch of gotchas. Perhaps one of the most severe is what
> happens to administrator IDS. Create some dummy admin IDS to use in 
> testing, because you can permanently disable your own admin ID if 
> you're not careful. We also know there will be library sharing gotchas.
> 
> We're actually going to do the backup servers first - after thorough
> testing. We think we can minimize the risk to things like admin IDS 
> if we upgrade the servers with NO clients yet on 7.1.8. I think that
> having 7.1.8 clients around will greatly complicate the process of 
> upgrading the servers, especially if any of those 7.1.8 clients are 
> the desktop workstations used by you and your coworkers. It's 
> possible that when you do eventually upgrade your servers to 7.1.8, 
> you'll have to backtrack to each client and manually install new SSL
> keys, on all client systems, all at once. I hope that cat-herding 
> nightmare can be avoided by upgrading servers first, which will then
> manage key distribution among clients more gracefully, as they 
> upgrade to 7.1.8 one at a time. If I'm wrong about any of this, 
> please chime in.
> 
> This thing has a big effect. Careful testing is necessary.
> 
> Roger Deschner
> University of Illinois at Chicago
> "I have not lost my mind - it is backed up on tape somewhere."
> ________________________________________
> From: Skylar Thompson <skylar2 AT U.WASHINGTON DOT EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 16:19
> Subject: Re: Should I upgrade to 7.1.8.x ??? (on the client end only)
> 
>  Content preview:  I believe the incompatibility arises if you set 
> SESSIONSECURITY
>     to STRICT for your nodes. The default is TRANSITIONAL so you 
> should be fine;
>     IIRC the only communication problems we had when upgrading our 
servers to
>     v7.1.8 was with library sharing. [...]
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> I believe the incompatibility arises if you set SESSIONSECURITY to 
> STRICT for your nodes. The default is TRANSITIONAL so you should be 
> fine; IIRC the only communication problems we had when upgrading our
> servers to v7.1.8 was with library sharing.
> 
> That said, v7.1.8 was a huge change so I would test it if possible 
first.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 05:12:44PM -0500, Tom Alverson wrote:
> > Thanks for that link, I am more worried about any "gotcha's" caused by 

> > upgrading the client to 7.1.8 or 8.1.2 before the storage servers get
> > upgraded (and start using the new authentication).   What I had not
> > realized until I saw the chart is that the new clients are NOT 
> > backward compatible with old storage servers (which doesn't really 
> > affect me since we have those all at 7.1.7.2 now).
> >
> >
> > *IBM SPECTRUM PROTECT CLIENT SUPPORT*
> >
> > includes the Backup-Archive, API, UNIX HSM, and Web clients that are 
> > compatible with, and currently supported with, IBM Spectrum Protect 
> > Servers and Storage Agents.
> > *IBM Spectrum Protect*
> > *Client Version*
> > *Supported IBM Spectrum Protect*
> > *Server and Storage Agent Versions*
> > 8.1.2
> > 8.1, 7.1
> > 8.1.0
> > 8.1, 7.1, 6.3.x 1
> > 7.1.8
> > 8.1, 7.1
> > 7.1
> > 8.1, 7.1, 6.3.x 1
> > 6.4 1
> > 8.1, 7.1, 6.3.x 1
> > 6.3 1, 2
> > 8.1, 7.1, 6.3.x 1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Skylar Thompson 
> > <skylar2 AT u.washington DOT edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > There's pretty wide version compatibility between clients and 
> > > servers; we didn't go v7 server-side until pretty recently but have 
> > > been running the v7 client for a while. IBM has a matrix published 
here:
> > >
> > > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21053218
> > >
> > > For basic backups and restores I think you can deviate even more, 
> > > but obviously you won't get support.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 03:14:24PM -0500, Tom Alverson wrote:
> > > > Our TSM storage servers were all upgraded last year to 7.1.7.2 
> > > > (before
> > > this
> > > > new security update came out).   Now I am wondering if I should 
start
> > > using
> > > > the updated client or not?   If the servers stay at 7.1.7.2 for 
now is
> > > > there any harm in using the newer client?  I would have to use 
> > > > 7.1.8.0 on anything older than 2012.  I saw some email traffic 
> > > > earlier that once you use the new authentication mode on a node 
> > > > you can't go back?  But it
> > > seems
> > > > that would not be possible until our storage servers get upgraded.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any downside in my case (where the storage servers are 
> > > > still at
> > > > 7.1.7.2) of using the latest client versions in the interim??  Our
> > > current
> > > > standard client versions now are 7.1.6.4 for 2008 and older, and 
> > > > 8.1.0.0 (yes the horrible buggy one) on newer servers.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > >
> > > --
> > > -- Skylar Thompson (skylar2 AT u.washington DOT edu)
> > > -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator
> > > -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
> > > -- University of Washington School of Medicine
> > >
> 
> --
> -- Skylar Thompson (skylar2 AT u.washington DOT edu)
> -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator
> -- Foege Building S046, (206)-685-7354
> -- University of Washington School of Medicine
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