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Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up Isilons with TSM

2014-11-21 13:41:09
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up Isilons with TSM
From: Zoltan Forray <zforray AT VCU DOT EDU>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:39:48 -0500
We make each CIFS share owner responsible for their own backups and
restores - even less helpdesk issues until someone can't remember their
password (we expire admin passwords every 90-days) or someone new gets
dumped on and they can't figure it out.

We are currently in the middle of splitting up one of the CIFS shares - it
is taking 17-hours for a complete scan and backup - plus it was crossing
too many departments/areas and everyone wants to have control over their
area!

Currently we have 3-machines doing the CIFS backups (all with unique HTTP
ports for the clients) but will probably setup a new one or two for
the Isilon!

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Prather, Wanda <Wanda.Prather AT icfi DOT com>
wrote:

> If you are already using a backup box with multiple nodes, you already
> have a system that works for you.
> Depends on how you want the data stored, and how you want to do restores.
> I like using PROXY relationships for this case:
>
> I have customer(s) with many TB of EMC NAS shares.
> They want the help desk to do the restores for the many users on those NAS
> shares.
>
> We use multiple client machines, not just one, to do the backups.
> Each machine/scheduler service has a TSM node names and is attached to a
> schedule.
> But they all have proxy authority and do their backups using
> "asnode=ONENASNAME".
>
> So they each back up a number of shares, but all the filespaces are stored
> under ONENASNAME.
> That way when the helpdesk goes to do a restore, they start the client
> with "asnode=ONENASNAME".
> They see all the shares/filespaces from one nodename and can do restores
> for any of them.
>
> But another big plus is that as the shares grow, if we need to take a
> machine that is doing 10 of the shares and split it across 2 machines doing
> 5 each, we do that and the location of the filespaces doesn’t change, and
> the helpdesk doesn't have to hunt around or have a chart to find things.
>
> Useful in this setup to maintain sanity for the help desk.
> Wanda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of
> Zoltan Forray
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:06 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up Isilons with TSM
>
> Thanks for the feedback.  We agree on EMC - they like to sell
> hardware......  Of course they support DataDomain!
>
> No, I have never setup a "proxy relationship" - anything you can offer
> about this process would be helpful!
>
> At this point, when it comes to any Windows users of the Isilon, we will
> have to go the "setup a dumb server to act at the backup box for the CIFS
> shares" like we do with lots of other EMC storage/mounts (we have one right
> now running 40+ TSM node/clients purely for CIFS backups).  As for *NIX
> users/mounts, no idea how they want proceed on that.
>
> Z
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Prather, Wanda <Wanda.Prather AT icfi DOT 
> com>
> wrote:
>
> > It's awful.
> > Only saving grace in my case is that the data is mostly images and
> > doesn't change much.
> >
> > I assume you've had experience setting up proxy relationships - use
> > many proxy machines to back up the individual shares on the Isilon, so
> > you can have them all working at once.
> > Then back up over NFS or CIFS.
> >
> > I can't believe EMC is still so far behind the times that they offer
> > no intelligent way to back up their NAS devices (e.g. Netapp Snapdiff
> > or V7Unified imbedded TSM client).
> > But then, they tell their customers that the appropriate thing to do
> > is buy a second Isilon and replicate.
> >
> > I have never understood how that is appropriate - manual deletes and
> > directory corruption replicate, too.
> >
> > W
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
> > Of Zoltan Forray
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:00 AM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: [ADSM-L] Backing up Isilons with TSM
> >
> > Anyone have experience backing up an EMC Isilon and can share
> > war-stories, methods, etc?
> >
> > --
> > *Zoltan Forray*
> > TSM Software & Hardware Administrator
> > BigBro / Hobbit / Xymon Administrator
> > Virginia Commonwealth University
> > UCC/Office of Technology Services
> > zforray AT vcu DOT edu - 804-828-4807
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>
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> TSM Software & Hardware Administrator
> BigBro / Hobbit / Xymon Administrator
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> UCC/Office of Technology Services
> zforray AT vcu DOT edu - 804-828-4807
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-- 
*Zoltan Forray*
TSM Software & Hardware Administrator
BigBro / Hobbit / Xymon Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
zforray AT vcu DOT edu - 804-828-4807
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