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Re: [ADSM-L] Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

2014-03-27 06:47:53
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)
From: Steven Harris <steve AT STEVENHARRIS DOT INFO>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 21:47:09 +1100
There is an AIX tuning hint for increasing tape throughput on modern
drives.  The default AIX page size causes multiple spin locks to be
obtained and released for each tape io.  The way around this is to
configure 64KB pages on AIX and force dsmserv to run with that page size.

I'm building some new V6.3.4/AIX 7.1 servers with these params and hope
to actually get the rated speed out of my LTO5s.  Nearly there.  Should
have load in a month or so, if change control smile upon me.

Regards

Steve

Steven Harris
TSM Admin
Canberra Australia.



On 27/03/2014 12:31 PM, Prather, Wanda wrote:
Well, should have mentioned this DS3512 is running DDP firmware, so it's 
spiffier than average.
Sounds like you are looking in all the right places.

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Kettner
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:24 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

That is what I'm leaning towards as well. I've got NetApp looking at the disk 
end to see if its getting hit hard. I also want to find out if the work load is 
heavier on reads or write (I'm guessing read) to know what sort of hardware fix 
is best for this, cache, flash, or more spindles, etc.

  From Wanda's email, they're using a DS3512. I wouldn't expect that to be much 
different, performance wise, than the NetApp 3160 that I'm using. That leads me 
to think that maybe it's not the disk afterall...

On 3/26/2014 11:30, Ehresman,David E. wrote:
Kevin,

My gut reaction is that your disk drives can't feed the data fast enough.  If 
it were me, I would open up a PMR to find out what the real bottleneck is.

David Ehresman
University of Louisville.

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
Of Kevin Kettner
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:34 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

On the original question, I have moved DBs on AIX with LVM several
times with good success. The only real concern is the performance
impact. The benefit over mirroring is you can do it with no outage at all.

I have 3 servers with similar sized DBs on AIX with NetApp SAS disk on
the back end, backing up to IBM 3592 drives, and my DB backups take
4-6 hours. I'm on 6.3.4 now and I've tried using more streams but that
has not made much difference.

My smallest production DB is around 200 GB and it takes about an hour
to backup.

I wonder what's going wrong. Do you have any advice?

Thanks!

On 3/21/2014 15:42, Prather, Wanda wrote:
Was just thinking the same -
It's only the conversion from V5 to V6 that takes forever.  Once you are 
V6/DB2, DB backup-restore is fast again.

I have TSM 6.3.4 on Windows, DB is 930G used, DS3512 disk, and it will back up 
to LTO5 in 90 minutes if the server isn't doing a lot else at the time.  
Restore takes maybe 15 minutes longer.

You've got other issues you should address, if your DB backup is taking many 
hours @ 300GB....

W


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Ehresman,David E.
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:11 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

I've used migratepv to move oracle DBs around with no problems.  I would not 
expect any issues with using LVM mirroring or migratepv to move the TSM DB.  
That is what I would do in your situation.

But your comments about taking days to backup and restore your TSM DB worries 
me.  How long does it take to backup your DB?  I have a 600G allocated/415G 
used TSM DB.  It backs up in under an hour and restore time is about the same.

David Ehresman
University of Louisville

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
Of Roger Deschner
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:35 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

Now that TSM V5 is gone from our shop and we're all TSM V6.2, it's time to move 
some things around. Such as the TSM DB2 database. The manual says to do a full 
database backup and restore. That could take days of downtime with our 
150-300GB databases, and a lot of angst, so that is not really acceptable.

What I'm planning to do instead, is what I've always done on AIX. It's one of 
the reasons I like AIX for hosting something like TSM. That is, to basically 
walk the database over to the new location using AIX LVM mirroring. All this 
with TSM up and running, albeit with a performance impact. (It's Spring Break, 
so the performance impact is acceptable.) The end result will be that the 
database has exactly the same Unix filesystem names, path names, and file names 
as before, except that it will be on a nice new faster disk subsystem.

Other than the obvious performance impact while AIX LVM is doing the mirroring, 
is there anything wrong with moving a TSM DB2 database by this method? Anybody 
done this and had problems?

Roger Deschner      University of Illinois at Chicago     rogerd AT uic DOT edu
======I have not lost my mind -- it is backed up on tape
somewhere.=====