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Re: [ADSM-L] ESXi and ESX

2010-06-22 16:01:00
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ESXi and ESX
From: Timothy Hughes <Timothy.Hughes AT OIT.STATE.NJ DOT US>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:59:14 -0400
Thanks Ray,

How can I  tell if the VCB Proxy can "see" the disk the VM is on?  This
VM is on a different Tier network so it may not be able to see I am not
positive  I just need a way to verify that I am correct.

Also, and  this is to anyone who cares to respond, I read  " The
protecting VM with TSM document and it say's that along with the TSM
Client on Backup Proxy it needs the TSM  Client on VM for file restores
is that correct? Because at some point we were planning on stopping the
"Normal TSM Client Backup on some VM's and just do VM File-level and
Full backups.

Thanks


Storer, Raymond wrote:

Tim, when it comes to VCB backups so long as your VCB Proxy can "see" the disk 
the VM is on you can perform a VCB backup of it. If not, you can't.

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Timothy Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:48 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ESXi and ESX

Question,

Is there any documentation on backing up a VM that's on a different TSM Server 
that the PROXY or the VCB server? Both the Proxy and the VCB server's are 
Windows boxes.

Tim





Prather, Wanda wrote:



HI Alan.

Most of my customers who are moving into VM for production systems
need/want "full" VM backups as well as TSM-type  file-level backups.
The "full" VM backup is an image backup of the .vmdk file containing
the VM guest.

The horror of running production apps on Windows is the dreaded DR
situation.
Since MS doesn't have a supported method for doing Bare-metal recovery
to different hardware, recovery of a Windows system to different
hardware at DR is a slow, multi-step process prone to complications.
However, if you have a copy of the .vmdk, you can drop it back onto an
ESX server at DR, in one step, and you DON"T have to deal with the move
to unlike hardware and the universe of issues dealing with Windows
system state.

And you can't get those .vmdk images with the TSM client.  While it is
possible to do file-by-file BMR for a VM guest, it's not something I'd
recommend if .vmdk images are available.

TSM file-level backups are still useful for versioning.  I have 2
customers using TSM (installed on the guest in the normal way) for the
VM file-level backups, and full VM's for DR.

The problem with using VCB, is that doing those full VM's puts you back
into the business of dumping LOTS of data every week.

I much prefer the use of VDR, which is VM's replacement tool for
backups in V4.  With VDR you get your fullvm's, but deduped into a disk
repository.  Then you back up the repository using TSM subfile backup.
Your first step then at DR, is to restore the repository from TSM tape.
Etc.

If you need more info, feel free to contact me directly.

Wanda

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
Of Allen S. Rout
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:14 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ESXi and ESX





On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:41:48 +0200, louw pretorius <louw AT SUN.AC DOT ZA>




said:





1. VCB is still officially the "right" way for backing up VM's from
VMware's (and IBM's) perspective and TSM 6.2 has some nice




enhancements




to get this done.




I'm aware that using VCB permits you to shift backup work from "the
real server" to some proxy.  Is there any other reason to prefer VCB to
simply managing your guests like any other machine?


- Allen S. Rout






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