There's "cheap" and then there's "cost-effective". For what the telco
wanted for a T3 to our hangar (our off-site storage facility) we could
pay wages and full benefits to TWO clerical types to do nothing but snag
and shuttle tapes. I don't remember the exact number, but I seem to
recall that the monthly fee ran to around $90,000 per year. It would be
cheaper if we crossed a state line, so that federal tariffs applied.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Nicholas Cassimatis
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:05 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Running tapes off-site multiple times in a day?

As a coworker once had posted on his door (Hey John, if you're out
there!):

There are three kinds of work:
Reliable
Fast
Cheap

You may pick two.

And it looks like you're in the unfortunate position where the "powers
that
be" are asking for all three.

Backups are just like insurance - you may be at the point where you have
to
get them to evaluate what point on the cost/protection scale they
want/need
to be.  A nice Compliance rule (SOX, HIPPA, etc) can often help you out
there.

Nick Cassimatis

----- Forwarded by Nicholas Cassimatis/Raleigh/IBM on 01/05/2006 11:00
PM
-----

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 01/05/2006
10:46:46 PM:

> A single T1 won't handle the load. We average about 22 GB of redo log
> per day, and I've seen peaks over 45 GB. Multiple T1s gets
"interesting"
> in terms of making them look like a single fat pipe to the application
> -- and to handle our peak environment, the T1 count actually gets to a
> price-match with a T3.
>
> And the company isn't willing to spring the monthly cost for multiple
Ts
> (there was some consternation at the cost of a single T1, and a lot of
> consternation when I said it wouldn't be enough).
>
> Oh -- and these volumes are for the *single* copy of the redo logs.
>
> Tom
>