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Re: SUSPECT: (MSW) Re: TSM and SATA Disk Pools

2004-11-15 10:05:55
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: (MSW) Re: TSM and SATA Disk Pools
From: PAC Brion Arnaud <Arnaud.Brion AT PANALPINA DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:05:32 +0100
Mark,

As we planned to migrate part of our storage pools to SATA disks in the
following weeks, I would be grateful to get a copy of your guidelines !

TIA.
Cheers.


Arnaud 

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-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Mark D. Rodriguez
Sent: Monday, 15 November, 2004 00:49
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: SUSPECT: (MSW) Re: TSM and SATA Disk Pools

Charles,

I may be missing something here, but even your numbers out of the
Symetrix seem pretty bad.  Are you sure you didn't drop a "0"
somewhere?  I have one customer that I set up using SSA drives with JFS2
filesystems and LTO1 drives and we average between 35 and 40MB/sec. and
some days as high as 45MB/sec (compression of data plays a large
factor).  Your Symetrix at 40GB/hr is only 11.11MB/sec!  BTW, this is
with no unusual tuning to the system, since this was more than enough
performance for their needs.  With a little more tuning I could easily
increase that by 50% and possibly double it if I really tried and that
is ancient SSA technology.  FC technology should be much faster.

I know there are many people who prefer raw lvs for there disk pools,
but on an AIX system I don't believe it is worth it.  I have never had
anyone show me raw lv numbers on AIX that I could not match (with far
less hassle) with a good JFS2 configuration.  If raw is the way you want
to go than I wish you luck.  However, if you are interested in switching
to using a JFS2 approach I would be glad to post to the list some simple
guidelines for configuring your environment to get much better
performance than you are reporting in your post.

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Regards,
Mark D. Rodriguez
President MDR Consulting, Inc.

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Hart, Charles wrote:

>Thanks you for the link.. Good info!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of

>William F. Colwell
>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:52 AM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: TSM and SATA Disk Pools
>
>
>Charles,
>
>See http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0458.html?Open
>
>This was in a recent IBM redbooks newsletter.  It discusses SATA 
>performance and to me it says that the tsm backup diskpool is not a
good use for SATA.
>Sequential volumes on SATA may be ok.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Bill
>At 10:21 AM 11/12/2004, you wrote:
>
>
>>Been asking lots of questions lately.  ;-)
>>
>>
>>We recently have put our TSM Disk Backup Pools on Clarrion SATA.
>>       The TSM Server is being presented as 600GB SATA Chunks
>>       Our Aix Admin has put a Raw logical over two 600GB Chunks to 
>>create a 1.2TB Raw Logical Volume
>>
>>Right now we are seeing Tape migrations @ about 4GB in 6hrs, where
before on EMC Symetrix disk we saw 29-40GB per hour.  If anyone would
like to share their TSM SATA Diskpool layout and or tips we would much
appreciate it!!!
>>
>>
>>TSM Env
>>AIX 5.2
>>TSM 5.2.4 (64bit)
>>p630 4x4
>>8x3592 FC Drives
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Charles
>>
>>
>
>----------
>Bill Colwell
>C. S. Draper Lab
>Cambridge Ma.
>
>
>

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