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Re: Issues with Win2K SYSTEM OBJECT/SYSTEM FILES backup

2001-06-01 16:38:55
Subject: Re: Issues with Win2K SYSTEM OBJECT/SYSTEM FILES backup
From: Rajesh Oak <rajeshoak AT LYCOS DOT COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:39:31 -0400
I had posted the same question some time back and was told that this is as per 
the TSM design. If Tivoli can work this out it would be great. We are going 
thru' a Win2000 upgrade and am looking at a final count of over 800 machines.

Rajesh Oak
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:23:32
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:23:32
 Prather, Wanda wrote:
>I have run into some ugly issues with the Win2K backup of the "SYSTEM
>OBJECT".
>
>I'm throwing the information out here to warn other people what to expect,
>and hopefully to get the developers to reconsider the current
>implementation.
>
>The SYSTEM FILES component of the "SYSTEM OBJECT"  on Win2K consists of over
>1500 .dll and .exe and .obj files from (mostly) the WinNT/system32
>directory.  These files are backed up EVERY TIME an incremental is run, even
>though THE DATA HAS NOT CHANGED.
>
>We have converted over 200 NT desktops to WIn2K PRO.  For each of our Win2K
>PRO systems, this adds 1586 files to the backup every night.
>
>This has had an enormous impact on the TSM server.  The additional data is
>only about 20 GB per night, and that's not a big problem.  But each of the
>SYSTEM FILES still has it's own entry in the TSM data base.
>
>You do the math:  That's over 300,000 additional objects that get added AND
>deactivated each day, which for me means an additional 2.5 HOURS of EXPIRE
>INVENTORY time is needed DAILY.  And all for data THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.
>
>TSM's strength has always been that it DOESN"T back up unchanged data.
>Well, at least it didn't used to...
>
>My problem here is we have another 250 machines to convert from NT to WIn2K.
>They aren't about to buy me a second TSM server to handle the load, when the
>current one worked fine for backing up the same number of NT systems with
>the same amount of user data.  Instead they are looking at some Windows-only
>software to back up the WIndows side of the house.
>
>It appears to me the current TSM implementation is flawed, and will inhibit
>other people's ability to support large Windows environments as well as
>ours.
>
>I put this information into the Requirements for the Oxford Symposium,
>hopefully it will give some additional visibility to the issue.
>
>Any suggestions welcome ....but don't suggest we give up our ability to do
>full bare-metal restores.
>Management will change the backup software first.
>
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>Wanda Prather
>The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab
>443-778-8769
>wanda_prather AT jhuapl DOT edu
>
>"Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think" -
>Scott Adams/Dilbert
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