Ahhh, totaly understandable.
Thanks,
Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,FC-SIL/INF. [SMTP:Rene.Lambelet AT NESTLE DOT COM]
> Sent: â ðåáîáø 14 2000 15:11
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for MS
> Exchange
>
> it is just a question of load, we backup more than 180 servers / night,
> bringing about 250 GB into our adsm server via network (in fact 2
> networks,
> production and service).
>
> Rene
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Glassman - Admin [SMTP:admin AT IAA.GOV DOT IL]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:07 PM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for MS
> > Exchange
> >
> > Rene,
> >
> > Ahhh, ok. Now that's more reasonable.
> >
> > Why then don't you perform a full every day ? Wouldn't that cut your log
> > time down to almost 0 ? Or is it a question of backup time ?
> >
> > At the moment, I have a backup time of around 2 hours for 24GB of data,
> > which includes the NT system as well as the Exchange online stuff.
> >
> > Have you thought about a Bare Metal / Intelligent Disaster Recovery
> > solution
> > for your Exchange server ?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,FC-SIL/INF. [SMTP:Rene.Lambelet AT NESTLE DOT
> > > COM]
> > > Sent: â ðåáîáø 14 2000 15:02
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for MS
> > > Exchange
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I have no work to do, Exchange does it automatically ! It just need
> > > time...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
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> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mike Glassman - Admin [SMTP:admin AT IAA.GOV DOT IL]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:59 PM
> > > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > > Subject: Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for MS
> > > > Exchange
> > > >
> > > > Del,
> > > >
> > > > From what you say it seems it should be a rather forwards sort of
> > > > backup-while-active and as easy to restore.
> > > >
> > > > Yet in Rene's email of a short while ago today, it seems that he has
> > to
> > > > work
> > > > rather hard once the restore has been done.
> > > >
> > > > I am very much questioning the need to drop BE and try the TSM
> > Exchange
> > > > backup, as I have had extremely good results with BE, and the
> restore
> > is
> > > > easy, fast and no need of manually applying logs to the database in
> > > order
> > > > to
> > > > get things in shape. A simple restore, reboot, and sometimes, but
> > > rarely,
> > > > an
> > > > ISINTEG.
> > > >
> > > > One other issue I like with BE today, is the ability to do a full
> > > restore
> > > > including OS and have everything work in the time it takes to
> restore
> > +
> > > 1
> > > > hour.
> > > >
> > > > I am still not so hot on the TSM version of Intelligent Disaster
> > > Recovery,
> > > > or Bare Metal Restore as it's called here.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Del Hoobler [SMTP:hoobler AT US.IBM DOT COM]
> > > > > Sent: â ðåáîáø 14 2000 14:38
> > > > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > > > Subject: Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for
> MS
> > > > > Exchange
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Seems that a lot of you are happy with the exchange backup.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> So let me ask if I may :
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 1. Do you backup Exchange while active or do you shut down the
> > > > services
> > > > > >> prior to backup ?
> > > > >
> > > > > In order to use Tivoli Data Protection for Microsoft Exchange,
> your
> > > > > services must be running. It uses the Microsoft provided APIs
> that
> > > were
> > > > > built to run online backups. If you bring down the services and
> > > > > run a backup, you cannot use TDP for Exchange. You could use
> > > > > the standard backup archive client...BUT.... and this is a big
> > BUT...
> > > > > ...you will not get online backup data integrity checking that is
> > > built
> > > > > into the Microsoft APIs and thus TDP for Exchange. When you use
> > > > > TDP for Exchange, every page of the database is read and
> > check-summed
> > > > > to make sure it is consistent.
> > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2. How many of you have had to restore your whole Exchange from
> > > > backup,
> > > > > and
> > > > > >> how long did it take, and did it work fully or were there any
> > > > glitches
> > > > > that
> > > > > >> had to be retouched to get it all running ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to answer part of this question...
> > > > > You should not have to "retouch" anything. Any if you do have to
> > > > > use ESEUTIL or whatever your favorite tool is... then we want
> > > > > to know about it because the APIs were built so that you do not
> > > > > have to do this.
> > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Del
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Del Hoobler
> > > > > IBM Corporation
> > > > > hoobler AT us.ibm DOT com
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