LIBUP8 is a definite problem.  We rec'd anecdotal info from (2) major
vendors that its CLIB was buggy (it was causing overwrites of a variety of
NLMs on our servers); from a VAR in the area that it caused crazy
utilization on Netware 4.x; and InfoWorld p 106, 8/12/96 documents that it
changes login scripts (which also happened to us).  We've backed out to
LIBUP7.

Steve Kuhn, Network Manager, Aegis Insurance Services, Inc., Jersey City NJ
kuhns%aegis AT mcimail DOT com  201.521.4565

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>.From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
>To: Multiple recipients of list ADSM-L
>Cc: KUHNS
>Subject: Netware NDS backup
>Date: Monday, August 19, 1996 8:49AM

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>MCI Mail date/time: Sun Aug 18, 1996  3:56 pm  EST
 > Source date/time: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:42:00 +12
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>We have had numerous problems trying to back up the NDS on a Netware 4.1
>server.  We have rebuilt the server several times and re-installed all the
>Netware OS software.  The Netware server kept "crashing" every time we
tried
>a backup of the NDS.  This time we have tried applying the latest Netware
>patches one by one and running NDS backups in between to try and isolate
the
>problem.  The tests seem to point to the LIBUP8 patch as being a problem.

>Can anyone explain this?