Re: [NV-L] Objects defined in Database

In my experience, negative address ranges prevent the hints, while the !@oid entries, or name wildcards enable them.
So you can use them, but limit the number of hints with as many negative address ranges as you can conveniently administer.
This is especially true when you use !@oid 0 to exclude non-snmp things. Only use that with very complete exclusion ranges.
The hints will usually appear to come and go every few hours.

It is also possible that some odd device is causing the repeated delete/rediscover of wierd interface things.
I would do an ovobjprint > junk
and then look at what the objects are. Probably there are loads of things with sequence numbers stuck to the ends of them.

You do get a discovery every time you restart netmon. And you also have configuration polling, which could cause repeated adds of interfaces on existing devices, if there is something wierd about the device. Looking at the attributes of anything that looks like repeats could help identify an odd device, if that's what it is.

Another thing that can happen is that the seedfile is missing or corrupted, in which case netmon runs as if there were no seedfile, That could cause wholesale discovery starting from the existing network. And once, I know, someone started netmon from the commandline, with no seedfile option, and ended up discovering the world.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
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Thanks Jim,
You are correct, Im running 7.1.4 fixpack 5 not 7.1.5.. I run ovtopofix -A once a week. Auto-discovery is not running, it gets a new seed file everyday for MACD's. This morning I removed all !OID entries from the seedfile and just completed an ovtopofix -A. I brought down the map and killed all deamons and ran nvTurboDatabase speed. I then did netnmrc and it took ovtopmd 15 minutes to initialize and it took netmon at least that long to initialize. I'm probably going to open a PMR... Pretty strange things happening..

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FixPack 3 for 7.1.5 has not been shipped yet Dave, so that's not where you are. cat /usr/OV/service/version. OK, so you are saying that your object count is growing by leaps and bounds yet nothing has changed in the network? No DNS or re-IP sorts of activities going on? What's in your events? Are you seeing many new nodes being added and managed or what? If not, then it sounds to me like your seed file and discovery options need attention. If you have negative ranges or !@oid entries for example, then netmon will have to create a hint for every other object it finds, just so that it can compare the IP addresses or OIDs. These stub objects are called hints and you have to run ovtopofix periodically to keep pruning them from the database. And if any of these objects is renamed or re-IPed, then netmon will create another hint for the new device, compounding the issue. How often do you do ovtopofix? That's probably what you should do now. James Shanks Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows Network Availability Management Network Management - Development Tivoli Software, IBM Corp REAMD@nationwide. com Sent by: To nv-l-bounces@list Tivoli NetView Discussions s.ca.ibm.com <nv-l AT lists.ca.ibm DOT com> cc 06/11/2008 08:10 Subject AM [NV-L] Objects defined in Database Please respond to Tivoli NetView Discussions <nv-l AT lists.ca DOT ib m.com> Hi All, I have about 5400 nodes (routers, switches, AceModules, ect) that i am monitoring with Netview 7.1.5 Fixpack3 on AIX 5300-05. My problem is that the Number of objects defined in the database keeps growing and growing. Right now its at 127711 and 20 minutes ago it was 127590. How can I found out whats going on? Number of objects defined in the database: 127711 Total number of fields defined in the database is: 259. Total number of field values in the database: 2198111 Number of Integer fields: 587160. Number of Boolean fields: 1138857. Number of String fields: 315704. Number of Enum fields: 156390. Respectfully, Dave_______________________________________________ NV-L mailing list NV-L AT lists.ca.ibm DOT com Unsubscribe:NV-L-leave AT lists.ca.ibm DOT com http://lists.ca.ibm.com/mailman/listinfo/nv-l (Browser access limited to internal IBM'ers only) _______________________________________________ NV-L mailing list NV-L AT lists.ca.ibm DOT com Unsubscribe:NV-L-leave AT lists.ca.ibm DOT com http://lists.ca.ibm.com/mailman/listinfo/nv-l (Browser access limited to internal IBM'ers only)
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