Re: [nv-l] NetView and MySQL
2004-04-13 04:07:56
Hi James,
Thanks for the clarification.
The problem I am having here in our region
is as follows:
1. No Training Courses available and if any
the number of candidates are too short to conduct a training
2. No support from IBM local as they do not
have the expertise (IBM local requested me to join TME10 and from there
I found out about your group)
3. No documentation takes about NetView in
Linux (all about UNIX AIX and Windows)
Is there anything that you can help me with.
Thanks and Regards
Mahmoud U. Mudhaffar
Senior Technical Support, IT/HO
Zahid Tractor & Heavy Machinery Co.
Ltd
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Tel: 966
2 6631211/6610468
Ext. 234
Fax: 966
2 6690727
E-Mail: mum AT zahid DOT com
Visit us at http://www.zahid.com
James Shanks <jshanks AT us.ibm DOT com>
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I'm sorry but I'm having a bit of trouble interpreting
just what you are asking.
Let me see if this will clarify things somewhat.
1. NetView for UNIX does not require a relational
database to work. However, if you have an RDBMS, and
both it and your Operating System were one of those supported
by the Tivoli RIM component, then you could install all three, the Tivoli
Framework, and both RIM and NetView, under that. This would make
your NetView box a managed node in a Tivoli Management region, and NetView
a managed resource on that managed node. Once this were accomplished,
then you could install the NetView DataBase Component, which is only available
when you install NetView via The Tivoli Framework. Having installed
all that, then you could proceed to offload topology, event, or collected
MIB data, into your RDBMS for further analysis. I thought that
was the original question you were asking. My understanding
is that some level of the Framework is indeed available for Linux,
but RIM is not, though, as I said this may have recently changed.
2. Sending NetView events to the Tivoli Event Console
(TEC) can be done whether or not NetView is installed with the Framework.
When NetView is not installed under the Tivoli Framework, one can
use the non-TME method of sending events to TEC. You are correct
about this.
3 Graphing collected MIB data is a function that
can be done solely within NetView, without an RDBMS. But only current
data can be graphed. First the snmpCollect daemon can be configured
to collect the information using the xnmcollect command, or from
the map GUI under Tools --> Data Collection and Thresholds :
SNMP . . . This brings up the MIB Data Collection panel in
which you can resume or suspend data collection for the MIB Objects defined
there, or create new ones. But until the daemon has collected data,
there will be nothing to graph. You can tell whether there is data
or not by clicking the "Show Data" button on the MIB Data Collection
panel.
I hope this helps.
I myself do not work with the snmpCollect daemon and graphing
collected data on a regular basis, but if you can describe the steps you
took and the problem you are having in more detail, then perhaps other
users can respond. If you choose to go that route, then be sure to
indicate what steps you took and what error messages did you got.
Of course, you can always open a problem to IBM Support in
your local area and get personalized assistance.
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and
Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
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Just for you information NetView on Linux does not support
Tivoli Environment. So there is no question of having Tivoli Frame work
but the Event Manager could route the events to Tivoli Frame Work if you
have one in your environment.
Further more, NetView in AIX has support for Tivoli Frame
Work and can be installed using Tivoli Desktop.
Is it essential to have a relation (or no relational)
database for NetView to Work?
We did manage to install NetView and we are getting some
information but this information is not very clear and we can not for example
create a Graph based on collected data, could you please provide some help
in this regard?
Thanks and Regards
Mahmoud U. Mudhaffar
Senior Technical Support, IT/HO
Zahid Tractor & Heavy Machinery Co. Ltd
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Tel: 966 2 6631211/6610468 Ext. 234
Fax: 966 2 6690727
E-Mail: mum AT zahid DOT com
Visit us at http://www.zahid.com
James Shanks <jshanks AT us.ibm DOT com>
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Basically, No.
RDBMS support for the NetView for UNIX versions requires
using the Tivoli RIM (Relational Database Interface Manager) product, which
in turn requires the Tivoli Framework. The way it works is that NetView
talks to RIM, and RIM to the RDBMS. As it says in the 7.1.4 Release
Notes, in the section "Product Notes", under the seventh
bulleted item, that there is no RIM support for Linux because there
is no support for RIM in the Tivoli Management Region on Linux.
But this may have changed recently. I don't know as I don't keep
up on Framework issues.
But even if RIM were now available on Linux so that you
could install it and NetView using the Framework, I would not expect that
MySQL was a supported RDBMs for RIM. In the past only DB2, Informix,
Oracle, and Sybase schemas were available for NetView.
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and
Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
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Hi,
NetView : 7.4.1
OS :
SuSE 8.1 Professional
Does NetView support MySQL? If so then can you please
refer to me a document which explains how it can be done.
Thanks and Regards
Mahmoud U. Mudhaffar
Senior Technical Support, IT/HO
Zahid Tractor & Heavy Machinery Co. Ltd
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Tel: 966 2 6631211/6610468 Ext. 234
Fax: 966 2 6690727
E-Mail: mum AT zahid DOT com
Visit us at http://www.zahid.com
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