[nv-l] Garbage attached to list post (was RE: [nv-l] Managing devices via their web interface)

2003-08-15 06:39:53
Subject: [nv-l] Garbage attached to list post (was RE: [nv-l] Managing devices via their web interface)
From: "Zlatko Krastev" <acit AT attglobal DOT net>
To: James Shanks <jshanks AT us.ibm DOT com>
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:29:45 +0300
As the mail server serving the list is striping down all "Received:" 
headers I cannot investigate the actual source of the offending message. 
The only source is (unreliable) "From:" header.
But mailer-identification header also came through and had the value of 
"Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52)". This ought to explain why even the 
first (short) message instead of actual zip-file attachment was delivered 
in my Lotus Notes with nearly useless file named "attkjuba.dat". The 
question why I receive such garbage only from Exchange users is 

16 months ago I've complained on tme10 list about couple of posts/replies 
with large files attached. As result the list-owner set a limit on the 
message size. Since then tme10 is just fine.

On ADSM-L list the things are even better:
-       list server does not stripe the headers and the investigation who 
is retransmitting particular message can be performed.
-       list distribution application is a lot smarter and compares new 
messages with recently distributed ones, effectively eliminating 

Probably you cannot move the list to VM, but message size limit ought to 
be easy to implement.

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant

James Shanks <jshanks AT us.ibm DOT com>
14.08.2003 23:52

        To:     nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
        Subject:        RE: [nv-l] Managing devices via their web interface

I don't believe that it was Bernard's mail server that was at fault here. 
True, he inadvertently caused the problem by adding attachments to his 
note to the list, but it was not his mail server that kept returning them. 
Rather some other person subscribed to the list had a server which 
returned the original note, complete with its attachments, back to the 
list, after having added other attachments of its own indicating that it 
did not like getting the original ones.     Since this was posted to the 
list, the list then sent that out to all subscribers, including the server 
which returned the fist note.  It promptly returned the second and the 
cycle continued.  I don't know what ultimately stopped it.  Perhaps that 
server is now blocking mail for that user; I don't know.  But  I do know 
that I looked at the extended addressing in some of the notes I got and I 
think I know whose mail server it was , and it was not Bernard's.  I won't 
point fingers on the list but I will say that we should all avoid 
attaching anything for just this reason.  If you want to share files, you 
should do it directly and not thru the list.!  It's just not set up for 
this, and apparently neither are some of the other subscribers. 

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group 


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