Let me get this right.

So I need to open the MIB file up and rip out which ones I need? Then I need
to manually add them to an existing Netview MIB?

J.T. Edwards
Sr. Systems Programmer
Enterprise Systems Management
Waste Management Incorporated
"Proud Sponsor of NASCAR"
Office: (713)265-1294
Mobile: (832)457-5239


-----Original Message-----
From: Qureshi, Fawad [mailto:Fawad.Qureshi AT ssa DOT gov]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:56 AM
To: Edwards, JT - ESM; 'nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com'
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Loading SNMP v2 MIBs


You would need to extract the trap definitions out of the MIB file and then
add them to Netview so it can interpret / format incoming traps properly. If
the vendor provided file is syntax error-free (which, on many occasions, I
have found not to be the case), you can use mib2trap to extract trap
definitions. This will create a shell script with imbedded addtrap commands.
Just run this script to add definitions.

Fawad

-----Original Message-----
From: Edwards, JT - ESM [mailto:JEdwards3 AT wm DOT com] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:50 AM
To: 'nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com'
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Loading SNMP v2 MIBs


That is exactly what I am trying to do. The vendor gave me the MIB.

J.T. Edwards
Sr. Systems Programmer
Enterprise Systems Management
Waste Management Incorporated
"Proud Sponsor of NASCAR"
Office: (713)265-1294
Mobile: (832)457-5239


-----Original Message-----
From: Qureshi, Fawad [mailto:Fawad.Qureshi AT ssa DOT gov]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:49 AM
To: Edwards, JT - ESM; 'nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com'
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Loading SNMP v2 MIBs


We are doing same for traps from many vendors - all the way from layer 2 to
application-level.

You need to load the trap definitions provided by this vendor (hopefully you
will have those). And loading v2 trap definitions to Netview, in my
experience, have always been fun :) 

Once you verify reception of these traps at Netview, then configure your tec
fwd ruleset to forward these to TEC. Make sure you have appropriate BAROC
definitions for these events on the TEC server.

Fawad

-----Original Message-----
From: Edwards, JT - ESM [mailto:JEdwards3 AT wm DOT com] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:38 AM
To: 'nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com'; Edwards, JT - ESM
Cc: Qureshi, Fawad
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Loading SNMP v2 MIBs


I am very happy you are asking these questions.

Allow me to further articulate what we are trying to engineer here.

There is a SNMP agent on the Siteminder policy server that will send traps.
We are hoping to use Netview to interpret those traps so that we can forward
those events on to the Tivoli Enterprise Console's Event Server for
processing.

I was under the impression in order to define events for TEC process, traps
need to go to Netview. What really got me excited is that I can build events
based on the SNMP traps received.

Thank you for the spirited conversation and collaboration. This is fun! :-)

J.T. Edwards
Sr. Systems Programmer
Enterprise Systems Management
Waste Management Incorporated
"Proud Sponsor of NASCAR"
Office: (713)265-1294
Mobile: (832)457-5239


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bruer [mailto:ad572 AT yahoo DOT com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:19 AM
To: Edwards, JT - ESM
Cc: 'nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com'; Qureshi, Fawad
Subject: Re: [nv-l] Loading SNMP v2 MIBs


"Edwards, JT - ESM" <JEdwards3 AT wm DOT com> writes:
> I am afraid that Netview will be unable to natively monitor some of
> the specifics we are looking for from this application. Hence, the 
> reason we
are
> pursuing usage of this MIB.  It contains specific information about
> the health of this application.
> 
> Things like:
> 
> Authenication failures
> Policy decisions made by the server
> Active Directory tranactions

I'm afraid I still don't understand.  Will you be receiving traps from this
application's SNMP agent?  Will you be polling this SNMP agent? In SNMP,
those are your two options -- wait for an agent to send an SNMP trap to
signal trouble, or periodically do SNMP GET's from the agent to see if
things are okay.

NetView does primarily 3 things to automatically monitor hosts in a
hands-off setup where you don't have an operator pointing and clicking
through a mib browser:
        o pings em  (not applicable to application monitoring though)
        o Periodically snmpwalk a subset of the SNMP agent's MIB for
          config changes.
        o Can use snmpcollect to poll specific mib values on the agent
          or combinations of values/formula to see if anything has
          exceeded a threshold.

And none of these three things actually requires that a mib be loaded on
NetView.

The only benefits to loading mibs into NetView  are:
        o allows you to use an snmp mib browser to interactively point
          and click your way through the hierarchy and do sets and
          gets on those values from a target SNMP agent/device

        o it assigns names to numeric OID values in certain log files,
          snmpwalks and in trapd.log  (but I'm not even sure if that
          applies to the v2 mib tree)

        o The snmpcollect GUI uses the v1 mib browser to allow you to
          interactively specify an OID for data collections and
          thresholds settings.  This does not apply to snmpv2 mibs
          though--for collections on v2 mibs you have to manually
          place the snmpv2 OID into snmpCol.conf becaus the browser
          won't get ya there. 

So I'm left questioning still "why is it you want to load snmp v2 mibs into
netview, and do you really need to do it to get where you want to go?"  

Best Regards, 
-- 
jb

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