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Thanks, the previous help did work for me. But I tried deleting some other
devices and it didn't go as smoothly. Now when I do a search on the map,
the object is not resolved. However when I do a ovobjprint, part of it does
appear. Basically the device was a router that I stated to delete from all
submaps. But I waited for it to be rediscovered(from seed file) and it
didn't. So I checked with ovobjprint and at least on of the IP associated
with the router is still there with a selection name of "Interface:x.x.x.x".
And when I do a location search it does not appear anywhere on the map. And
thought that it might be in some other map, so I went and deleted all the
other maps and now just have the "default" map. Then did the clean up with
ovmapcount -a and ovtopofix -a. And it still stayed when I did ovobjprint
-s Interface:x.x.x.x. So my question: Is there a way to delete an object
from the database manually (CLI/Sol7)?
Thanks,
-Jin
-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie Clark [mailto:lclark AT us.ibm DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:14 PM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: Re: [NV-L] RE: Réf. : Re: [NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map
Did you remove them from all of your maps, or only one of your maps?
They will not be removed from the topology database until they are
gone from all maps. Are they in the Object database? (ovobjprint -s
<name>).
That will tell you how many maps they are still in.
Cordially,
Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit
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I also used this method to delete certain devices from my maps, in which it
did and I also did the ovtopofix -a. However the devices are still in the
database when I do a ovtopodump. And I don't want netmon to still monitor
them. Also before and after I deleted the devices, I did a ovtopodump -S
and the number of objects stayed the same. I was expecting the number to
drop by 300, since I deleted that many from the maps. What do I need to do
to delete the devices from the database? Also I recently changed my seed
file to not include the devices that I deleted and I'm not using
auto-discovery.
Thanks,
-Jin
-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:jshanks AT US.IBM DOT COM]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:13 PM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: Re: Réf. : Re: [NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map
On UNIX you use the Smartset/Collection editor. It has both GUI and
text editor modes. You can use the GUI mode. Just click the buttons.
Type in "collectioned" or pull down Tools --> Smartset Editor
To get a smartset with non-SNMP objects, create one with the attribute
'isSNMPSupported' equal to false.
To get a smartset with only MS objcets, create one with the vendor
equal to Microsoft or the attribute SNMP sysObjectId like (~)
1.3.6.1.4.1.311. (make certain to omit the initial dot "." in string
here). Works ofr me.
You can of course continue this logic to add other vendors or make
compound conditions for your smartsets.
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
bducharme AT avdl DOT com
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11/12/2001 03:19 PM Subject: Réf. : Re: [NV-L]
Please respond to IBM Remove Workstation from Map
NetView Discussion
How to define Smartsets
that include workstation and non-snmp equipment ?
Benoit
"Leslie Clark" <lclark AT US.IBM DOT COM>@tkg.com le 2001-11-12 10:57:04
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Objet : Re: [NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map
This is done with the seedfile. There are a couple of ways.
First, if you have a good addressing scheme, you should exclude them
by address range. This is the best performer. If you have assigned
DHCP
address ranges, put them in your seedfile like this:
!10.*.23-150.40-255
If you don't have a tidy addressing scheme, or if you also have a lot
of workstations that don't abide by the rules, you can exclude them by
snmp sysObject id. Since most of them will be either non-snmp, or
Microsoft, you can exclude them like this;
!@oid 0 # excludes non-snmp
!@oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.* # excludes MS
The second one would also exclude servers, so you would then add
in an explicit list of the servers that you do want to allow.
Make sure netmon is using the seedfile, and has re-read it.
To get them out of the map after updating the seedfile you can
either rediscover the entire network, or you can locate and
delete them. To locate and delete them, define Smartsets
that include them. Then you can grab them easily and delete
them. If there are a lot, this can take quite a while, but if you have
done a lot of map customization it will be worth the wait. I prefer
to stop netmon during the delete, and after all of the events for
the deletions have come in, do an ovtopofix -a.
Cordially,
Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit
bducharme@avdl
.com To: nv-l AT tkg DOT com
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Workstation from Map
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Discussion
How can we remove and prevent Workstation from getting in the Netview
map ?
Thanks
Benoit
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Thanks, the previous help did work for me. But I tried deleting some other devices and it didn't go as smoothly. Now when I do a search on the map, the object is not resolved. However when I do a ovobjprint, part of it does appear. Basically the device was a router that I stated to delete from all submaps. But I waited for it to be rediscovered(from seed file) and it didn't. So I checked with ovobjprint and at least on of the IP associated with the router is still there with a selection name of "Interface:x.x.x.x". And when I do a location search it does not appear anywhere on the map. And thought that it might be in some other map, so I went and deleted all the other maps and now just have the "default" map. Then did the clean up with ovmapcount -a and ovtopofix -a. And it still stayed when I did ovobjprint -s Interface:x.x.x.x. So my question: Is there a way to delete an object from the database manually (CLI/Sol7)?
Thanks,
-Jin
-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie Clark [mailto:lclark AT us.ibm DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:14 PM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: Re: [NV-L] RE: Réf. : Re: [NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map
Did you remove them from all of your maps, or only one of your maps?
They will not be removed from the topology database until they are
gone from all maps. Are they in the Object database? (ovobjprint -s
<name>).
That will tell you how many maps they are still in.
Cordially,
Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit
JWhite
<JWhite AT PEC DOT co To: "'IBM NetView Discussion'"
m> <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
Sent by: cc:
owner-nv-l@tkg Subject: [NV-L] RE: Réf. : Re: [NV-L]
.com Remove Workstation from Map
11/13/01 05:30
PM
Please respond
to IBM NetView
Discussion
I also used this method to delete certain devices from my maps, in which it
did and I also did the ovtopofix -a. However the devices are still in the
database when I do a ovtopodump. And I don't want netmon to still monitor
them. Also before and after I deleted the devices, I did a ovtopodump -S
and the number of objects stayed the same. I was expecting the number to
drop by 300, since I deleted that many from the maps. What do I need to do
to delete the devices from the database? Also I recently changed my seed
file to not include the devices that I deleted and I'm not using
auto-discovery.
Thanks,
-Jin
-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:jshanks AT US.IBM DOT COM]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:13 PM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: Re: Réf. : Re: [NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map
On UNIX you use the Smartset/Collection editor. It has both GUI and
text editor modes. You can use the GUI mode. Just click the buttons.
Type in "collectioned" or pull down Tools --> Smartset Editor
To get a smartset with non-SNMP objects, create one with the attribute
'isSNMPSupported' equal to false.
To get a smartset with only MS objcets, create one with the vendor
equal to Microsoft or the attribute SNMP sysObjectId like (~)
1.3.6.1.4.1.311. (make certain to omit the initial dot "." in string
here). Works ofr me.
You can of course continue this logic to add other vendors or make
compound conditions for your smartsets.
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
bducharme AT avdl DOT com
Sent by: owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com To: IBM NetView Discussion
<nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
cc:
11/12/2001 03:19 PM Subject: Réf. : Re: [NV-L]
Please respond to IBM Remove Workstation from Map
NetView Discussion
How to define Smartsets
that include workstation and non-snmp equipment ?
Benoit
"Leslie Clark" <lclark AT US.IBM DOT COM>@tkg.com le 2001-11-12 10:57:04
Veuillez répondre à IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
Envoyé par : owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com
Pour : IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
cc :
Objet : Re: [NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map
This is done with the seedfile. There are a couple of ways.
First, if you have a good addressing scheme, you should exclude them
by address range. This is the best performer. If you have assigned
DHCP
address ranges, put them in your seedfile like this:
!10.*.23-150.40-255
If you don't have a tidy addressing scheme, or if you also have a lot
of workstations that don't abide by the rules, you can exclude them by
snmp sysObject id. Since most of them will be either non-snmp, or
Microsoft, you can exclude them like this;
!@oid 0 # excludes non-snmp
!@oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.* # excludes MS
The second one would also exclude servers, so you would then add
in an explicit list of the servers that you do want to allow.
Make sure netmon is using the seedfile, and has re-read it.
To get them out of the map after updating the seedfile you can
either rediscover the entire network, or you can locate and
delete them. To locate and delete them, define Smartsets
that include them. Then you can grab them easily and delete
them. If there are a lot, this can take quite a while, but if you have
done a lot of map customization it will be worth the wait. I prefer
to stop netmon during the delete, and after all of the events for
the deletions have come in, do an ovtopofix -a.
Cordially,
Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit
bducharme@avdl
.com To: nv-l AT tkg DOT com
Sent by: cc:
owner-nv-l@tkg Subject: [NV-L] Remove
Workstation from Map
.com
11/12/01 10:10
AM
Please respond
to IBM NetView
Discussion
How can we remove and prevent Workstation from getting in the Netview
map ?
Thanks
Benoit
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