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Re: RE: Réf. : Re: [NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map

2001-11-13 20:13:30
Subject: Re: RE: Réf. : Re: [NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map
From: "Leslie Clark" <lclark AT us.ibm DOT com>
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:13:30 -0500
Did you remove them from all of your maps, or only one of your maps?
They will not be removed from the topology database until they are
gone from all maps. Are they in the Object database? (ovobjprint -s
<name>).
That will tell you how many maps they are still in.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit



                                                                                
       
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I also used this method to delete certain devices from my maps, in which it
did and I also did the ovtopofix -a.  However the devices are still in the
database when I do a ovtopodump.  And I don't want netmon to still monitor
them.  Also before and after I deleted the devices, I did a ovtopodump -S
and the number of objects stayed the same.  I was expecting the number to
drop by 300, since I deleted that many from the maps.  What do I need to do
to delete the devices from the database?  Also I recently changed my seed
file to not include the devices that I deleted and I'm not using
auto-discovery.

Thanks,
-Jin
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     On UNIX you use the Smartset/Collection editor.  It has both GUI and
     text editor modes.  You can use the GUI mode.  Just click the buttons.

     Type in "collectioned" or pull down Tools --> Smartset Editor
     To get a smartset with non-SNMP objects, create one with the attribute
     'isSNMPSupported' equal to false.
     To get a smartset with only MS objcets, create one with the vendor
     equal to Microsoft  or  the attribute SNMP sysObjectId like (~)
     1.3.6.1.4.1.311.  (make certain to omit the initial dot "." in string
     here).  Works ofr me.
     You can of course continue this logic to add other vendors or make
     compound conditions for your smartsets.

     James Shanks
     Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
     Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group



                                                                          
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     How to define Smartsets
     that include workstation and non-snmp equipment ?

     Benoit





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     This is done with the seedfile. There are a couple of ways.

     First, if you have a good addressing scheme, you should exclude them
     by address range. This is the best performer. If you have assigned
     DHCP
     address ranges, put them in your seedfile like this:

     !10.*.23-150.40-255

     If you don't have a tidy addressing scheme, or if you also have a lot
     of workstations that don't abide by the rules, you can exclude them by
     snmp sysObject id. Since most of them will be either non-snmp, or
     Microsoft, you can exclude them like this;

     [email protected] 0                                 # excludes non-snmp
     [email protected] 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.*      # excludes MS

     The second one would also exclude servers, so you would then add
     in an explicit list of the servers that you do want to allow.

     Make sure netmon is using the seedfile, and has re-read it.

     To get them out of the map after updating the seedfile you can
     either rediscover the entire network, or you can locate and
     delete them. To locate and delete them, define Smartsets
     that include them. Then you can grab them easily and delete
     them. If there are a lot, this can take quite a while, but if you have
     done a lot of map customization it will be worth the wait. I prefer
     to stop netmon during the delete, and after all of the events for
     the deletions have come in, do an ovtopofix -a.


     Cordially,

     Leslie A. Clark
     IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
     Detroit




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     How can we remove and prevent Workstation from getting in the Netview
     map ?

     Thanks

     Benoit

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