Unless they are in the seed file with the "$" sign they should NOT be SNMP
managed - I would OVTOPODUMP the node and look for:

This node IS SNMP managed

TOPOLOGY POLL: MAXIMUM TIME                      
SNMP STATUS POLL: Thu 18 Oct 2001 02:13:29 PM C  
OTHER POLLING INTERVALS/TIMES:                   

This node is NOT SNMP managed

TOPOLOGY POLL: MAXIMUM TIME
SNMP STATUS POLL: MAXIMUM TIME
OTHER POLLING INTERVALS/TIMES:

HOWEVER, this won't really fix your problem because the SNMP config poll is
picking the stuff up out of the interface table. So I don't know how you
would prevent it.

Even in the seed file, if you exclude the range of the redundant interfaces,
you will still get them if you have put the node itself in the seed file
(you can't negate something you choose to discover).

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Bursik [mailto:tivoliesm AT hotmail DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:07 PM
To: nv-l AT tkg DOT com
Subject: RE: [NV-L] Interface name/ip status Changing?


Thanks Scott,

This opens another question. We have nodes with private networks that are 
not accessable from ouside of that network. NetView is "seeing" these 
network IP addresses through the SNMP demand polls and reports the status. 
The IP addresses in this private network are also used in the regular 
network so NetView thinks its a duplicate. Is there a way to tell NetView to

look at these nodes via IP and not SNMP so we can avoid this?

Scott

>From: "Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr AT csgsystems DOT com>
>Reply-To: IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
>To: "'IBM NetView Discussion'" <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
>Subject: RE: [NV-L] Interface name/ip status Changing?
>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:53:20 -0500
>
>Heh, falls under the category of BEEN THERE and DONE THAT.
>
>Glad to help.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Bursik [mailto:tivoliesm AT hotmail DOT com]
>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:45 PM
>To: nv-l AT tkg DOT com
>Subject: RE: [NV-L] Interface name/ip status Changing?
>
>
>
>Let me start by saying YOUR RIGHT!
>
>Here is what I found:
>
>13:09:10     WARNING: There was a duplicate IP address 10.10.10.2 on
>pbsxd200004.pepsi.com and pbsxd200010.pepsi.com.
>13:09:11     WARNING: There was a duplicate IP address 10.10.10.130 on
>pbsxd200004.pepsi.com and pbsxd200010.pepsi.com.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Scott
>
>
> >From: "Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr AT csgsystems DOT com>
> >Reply-To: IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
> >To: "'IBM NetView Discussion'" <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
> >Subject: RE: [NV-L] Interface name/ip status Changing?
> >Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:33:59 -0500
> >
> >The reason this usually happens is because there are duplicate IP 
>addresses
> >on the non-routable networks. For instance, if you have an SP2 complex,
> >some
> >of the switch interfaces (internal) participate in a 1.1.1 or 2.2.2
> >network.
> >If some other box in the network has a secondary interface with the same
> >address (again - a subnet not reachable by netview or else the machine
> >would
> >report duplicate IP as soon as it was put on the network).
> >
> >The only solution I know of is to re-ip the offender.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Scott Bursik [mailto:tivoliesm AT hotmail DOT com]
> >Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:29 PM
> >To: nv-l AT tkg DOT com
> >Subject: RE: [NV-L] Interface name/ip status Changing?
> >
> >
> >
> >The issue is, he will change back and forth throughout the day. The name
> >cahnges back to the original en3 name from the longer name. Its like it 
>is
> >rediscivering the node several times a day with different interface 
>names.
> >If I unmanage one of the non-pingable interfaces (we will call it en3)
> >later
> >
> >in the day it will become managed again and the name will be the en3;
> >Product: PCI Ethernet Adapter........ So NetView thinks its a new 
>interface
> >and adds it and removes the other interface. Then later on it doesit 
>again,
> >naming the interface back to en3 adn thus creating more interface traps 
>and
> >changing the status of the node back to marginal. Hope this makes sense.
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >
> > >From: "Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr AT csgsystems DOT com>
> > >Reply-To: IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
> > >To: "'IBM NetView Discussion'" <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
> > >Subject: RE: [NV-L] Interface name/ip status Changing?
> > >Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:56:02 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > >1003176713 1  Mon Oct 15 15:11:53 2001 pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com N
> > >Interface
> > >
> > >css0 Added
> > >
> > >===> Discovery adds it
> > >
> > >1003176713 1  Mon Oct 15 15:11:53 2001 pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com N
> > >Interface
> > >
> > >en0 Added
> > >
> > >===> Discovery adds it
> > >
> > >1003176714 3  Mon Oct 15 15:11:54 2001 pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com N
> > >Interface
> > >
> > >css0 down.
> > >
> > >===> Unpingable interface - first status poll fails this interface
> > >
> > >1003176714 7  Mon Oct 15 15:11:54 2001 pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com N Node
> > >marginal.
> > >
> > >===> Box is now marginal because one or more of its interfaces are 
>down.
> > >
> > >1003176714 3  Mon Oct 15 15:11:54 2001 pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com N
> > >Interface
> > >
> > >en0 down.
> > >
> > >===> Status poll fails to this interface as well - probably non 
>pingable
> > >
> > >1003177212 7  Mon Oct 15 15:20:12 2001 pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com n 
>Demand
> > >polling on node pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com.
> > >
> > >===> User initiates demand poll
> > >
> > >1003177227 4  Mon Oct 15 15:20:27 2001 pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com N
> > >Interface
> > >
> > >Descriptor for en3 changed to "en3; Product: PCI Ethernet Adapter
> > >(23100020)
> > >
> > >   Manufacturer: not available! Part Number: 091H0397 FRU Number:
> >091H0397
> > >".
> > >
> > >===> Demand poll finds the en3 interface (snmp get of interface table I
> > >assume)
> > >
> > >1003177227 4  Mon Oct 15 15:20:27 2001 pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com N
> > >Interface
> > >
> > >Descriptor for en1 changed to "en1; Product: PCI Ethernet Adapter
> > >(23100020)
> > >
> > >
> > >===> Demand poll finds en1 inteface information (snmp get of interface
> > >table)
> > >
> > >1003177227 4  Mon Oct 15 15:20:27 2001 pbsxd200009stby.pepsi.com N
> > >Interface
> > >
> > >Descriptor for en0 changed to "en0; Product: PCI Ethernet Adapter
> > >(23100020)
> > >
> > >   Manufacturer: not available! Part Number: not available! FRU Number:
> >not
> > >available! ".
> > >
> > >===> again en0 information obtained via the demand poll.
> > >
> > >I don't see anything wrong here? The only issue may be that the node 
>will
> > >be
> > >degraded unless you unmanage the non-pingable interfaces OR you must 
>use
> > >"$"
> > >in the seed file for this box so he uses SNMP status polls. I assume at
> > >least some of these interfaces are non-pingable.
> > >
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