RE: Map Question

2000-05-26 08:42:33
Subject: RE: Map Question
From: ronnie.ross AT springs DOT com
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:42:33 -0400
We have arranged in DNS to have the router name resolve ONLY to the Sync
interface nearest NetView.  Our naming standard is xxx_yy_zzz.
Where xxx is the site, yy is wire closet, zzz is device type.  If we have
more than one site in the same city, we drop back to 2 letters and add a
number.  This has worked well with around 200+ remote sites.  The 3 letter
site name in most cases makes sense and non network people can guess as to
where the site realy is.  It would be GREAT if we could add a name or IP
address into the location.conf file and let NetView move them to the right
location icon.

We know ahead of time before a site goes live, what the site is to be
called and could add router name into the location.conf file.

Question 1.  Does netmon upon discovery of a new network first look in
location.conf file every time before it adds the network to the map?  So I
could just edit the location.conf file, save it, and it works?  Or do I
have to cycle netmon to pickup changes in location.conf?

Question 2.  When I discovered our network,  I had ALOT of network
icons that I guess came from each Frame Relay interface.  We do not have IP
at the port, but put IP on each PVC.  IS THIS NORMAL?  I deleted them since
they were not attached to anything.  Others eventually connected to a
router but NEVER between routers, so these I also deleted.

Ronnie Ross
Network Engineer

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On the question of 'floaters', this is a bug. The fix should be in V6.01
but in the meantime, you need to remember to do an ovtopofix before
using a new map created with a location.conf file.

As to what good this is if the routers are still on the IP Internet submap,
this might be a good forum for discussion of what development should
do next with this feature. The easy thing to handle first was networks.
For most places I see, having the network inside a location icon makes
it easier to know where to put the routers. I can see what they are
to, and then I can move them much more quickly. Now what? It could be
tricky knowing where to put the routers based on address. They could
be discovered by any of their interfaces. So the question is, how would
you like this to work? By hostname? By hostnames with wildcards?
Think about it generate some input.

As a practical matter at this stage, I really like to see a customer who
has a naming convention that includes sites. Then I can locate nodes
by Selection Name, View...Highlights....Select Highligts, and then
cut from the IP internet submap and paste in the Location submap
even if they are so tiny that I cannot select them with the mouse.
(The trick is to have a Smartset of isLocation, so you can open those


Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking

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...and I'm also interested in the explanation of the usefulness of having
ability to stack locations in locations till death if your routers stay at
top level.

Olivier MERY
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From: Dave_Finn AT computacenter DOT com [mailto:Dave_Finn AT computacenter DOT 
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Subject: Re: [NV-L] Map Question

Hi Ronnie,

It's an annoying one, I don't know why it works like this, it would be much
better if the routers went straight into the location submap.  But I am
there is a good explanation.

Anyway to sort your problem.

     -    Close down you map.
     -    Shutdown netmon (ovstop netmon)
     -    run ovtopofix -a
     -    Restart netmon

When you now open your map you should be able to cut and paste your

Dave Finn
Enterprise Consultant

ronnie.ross AT springs DOT com on 24/05/2000 21:25:39

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I Finally received by copy of V6 and created a locations.conf file and
started up NetView.  When I go into IP Internet, all the Locations were
automatically created, but all the routers are at this level.  If I cut one
and then go into the location that the router belong in and paste, it goes
into the user plane and does not drop down and reconnect the lines back to
all the IP networks at that location.

Is this the way it is supposed to work, or did I miss something?

Ronnie Ross
Network Engineer


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