Re: New hardware planning

2000-03-21 10:14:30
Subject: Re: New hardware planning
From: Ray Schafer <schafer AT tkg DOT com>
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:14:30 -0600
lclark AT us.ibm DOT com wrote:

> If you mean the 43P-270, those are nice machines too. I just checked my
> files and found various models of 43P at four different customers, and all
> were performing fine for small-medium networks. It is available with 1-4
> 375Mhz
> processors, but  the most I saw was two processors.

The 44P is a tower as well.  It is a new machine.
It can have up to four 375 MHz Power II processors.
For NetView, although most of the deamons are mot multi-threaded, it can
benefit from MP, since different deamons can be dispatched to different

> The F50 is a tower,
> intended as a server, and can have slow or fast processors; and the 43P is
> a
> workhorse of a desktop workstation. For your purposes, either one can be
> equipped with the processors and memory and disk and network connection
> you need, so you can choose based on price performance.
> Cordially,
> Leslie A. Clark
> IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
> Detroit
> ====================================================
> Whether the hardware supports 64-bits is irrelevant so far as I can see.
> You
> don't need that much precision for NetView, and it runs just fine on an
> F50.
> What is important in the hardware decision is how many processors you have,
> how
> fast they are, and how much memory you need.
> There are sizing considerations in the back of the NetView Installation
> manual
> you should look at to see about memory, and the rule about processors is
> the
> more the better, so long as they are fast (an F50 is better box than a J30
> because though an F50 has only 4 processors versus the J30's 8, the J30
> processors are only something like 83 MHz while the F50's are 233 MHz.  The
> F50
> is the performance platform of choice the last time I heard a
> recommendation
> from Tivoli Performance.
> But I am not familiar with the 44P.  To evaluate it you should compare
> processors and memory.
> And you will also have to get memory  requirements for Cisco works and the
> other
> Tivoli products you need to run.  Best rule of thumb I ever heard was:
> "Determine how much memory you think you will need, double it, and add 20
> per
> cent".  The second best one I ever heard was "Buy as much as you can
> afford.
> You cannot be too rich or too thing or have too much memory."   :-)
> James Shanks
> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX and NT) L3 Support
> "Bonnie Jundt" <bonnie_jundt AT mail.und.nodak DOT edu> on 03/15/2000 
> 10:32:19 AM
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> Subject:  [NV-L] New hardware planning
> We are planning for new hardware for Tivoli, Netview and CiscoWorks and
> have
> been doing comparisons on the F50 to the 44P-270.  Currently the F50 is a
> 32 bit
> processor and the 44P a 64 bit processor.
> Most importantly we need to determine if the applications will support 64
> bit.
> It seems that the trade-offs on the two hardware platforms are the 32bit vs
> 64bit, disk and memory expansion and number of slots available.
> Any advice would be appreciated greatly.
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Ray Schafer                   | schafer AT tkg DOT com
The Kernel Group              | Distributed Systems Management

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