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RE: NetView

2000-03-14 11:58:54
Subject: RE: NetView
From: lclark AT us.ibm DOT com
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:58:54 -0500
Bernard, thank you for catching that. Yes, I had it backwards.
Use -a to preserve differences.


Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit
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---------------------- Forwarded by Leslie Clark/Southfield/IBM on
03/14/2000 11:10 AM ---------------------------

BAUDOUX BERNARD <bernard.baudoux AT fortisbank DOT com>@tkg.com on 03/14/2000
04:17:45 AM

Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>

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Subject:  RE: [NV-L] NetView



Leslie,

in you mail concerning the behavior of NetView when two maps are used, you
state

>The ovtopofix command, which you should
> be running periodically, has a '-a' option if you want to put
> everything
> back on all maps, and a '-A' option if you want to preserve the
> differences.

I thought it was just the opposite : '-a' if you want to preserve the
differences between two maps.

Tha man says :

" As a general rule, if you have multiple maps that contain
different objects, you should use the -a option instead of
the -A option.  If you only have one map or if all of your
maps contain the same objects, you should use the -A option.
Also see the description of the -U option to help you
determine whether to use the -a or -A option."


Did I misunderstood anything ?

Bernard Baudoux
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e-mail : bernard.baudoux AT fortisbank DOT com


> -----Original Message-----
> From:   lclark AT us.ibm DOT com [SMTP:lclark AT us.ibm DOT com]
> Sent:   Tuesday, 14 March, 2000 00:45
> To:     NV-L AT tkg DOT com
> Subject:     RE: [NV-L] NetView
>
>
>
> The original thought in the designers minds was that each operator would
> be given the power to arrange his own map, containing only the things
they
> were interested in. In real life, I suspect that no one does this. It
> always ends
> up being one poor administrator making multiple maps for special purposes
> and woe be to the operator who changes it.
>
> I usually advise against multiple maps if it can be helped, but there are
> some
> things you really need r/w maps for, in which case I recommend that they
> be
> identical, so they can be deleted and re-saved easily. I know that for
> really
> large enterprises this approach does not hold up, and they need the
> ability
> to 'delete from all maps', rather than just 'delete from all submaps'
more
> than
> anyone.  People are making architectural decisions based on the lack of
> this little function.
>
> It is probably not as simple as we might think, but I do suggest that you
> send
> a note to netview AT tivoli DOT com and/or your local Tivoli rep suggesting 
> this
> very
> thing.
>
>
> Cordially,
>
> Leslie A. Clark
> IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
> Detroit
> ======================================================================
>
>
> "John Creasey" <creasey AT ozemail.com DOT au>@tkg.com on 03/11/2000 06:53:25 
> AM
>
> Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
>
> Sent by:  owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com
>
>
> To:   "'IBM NetView Discussion'" <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
> cc:
> Subject:  RE: [NV-L] NetView
>
> I wonder why nobody has ever thought about adding a menu option
> to delete an object properly.  Surely it isnt that hard to do?
> Why should a poor user have to trudge around various maps and submaps
> deleting objects.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com [mailto:owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com]On Behalf 
> > Of
> > lclark AT us.ibm DOT com
> > Sent: Thursday, 9 March 2000 22:56
> > To: NV-L AT tkg DOT com
> > Subject: Re:[NV-L] NetView
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This happens when you delete something from one map but not
> > the other, and is a feature designed to allow you to make different
> > views for different users. The ovtopofix command, which you should
> > be running periodically, has a '-a' option if you want to put
> > everything
> > back on all maps, and a '-A' option if you want to preserve the
> > differences.
> >
> > An object must be deleted from both of the maps (all submaps on
> > both maps) before it can be rediscovered. So if you have two maps that
> > are different and you want them to be different, but you want
> > one object
> > to appear on both and it is only on one, you must delete it from the
> > one where it still appears. Then it will be rediscovered and show up
> > on both maps.
> >
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Leslie A. Clark
> > IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
> > Detroit
> > ======================================================
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We have two maps, but something objects appear just only one map.
> > Can anyone tell me how to place this objects in another map.
> >
> >
> > Thanks in Advance
> >
> > José Roberto Antunes
> >   e-mail: antunes AT telesc.com DOT br
>
>
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