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RE: NetView

2000-03-13 18:45:22
Subject: RE: NetView
From: lclark AT us.ibm DOT com
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:45:22 -0500
The original thought in the designers minds was that each operator would
be given the power to arrange his own map, containing only the things they
were interested in. In real life, I suspect that no one does this. It
always ends
up being one poor administrator making multiple maps for special purposes
and woe be to the operator who changes it.

I usually advise against multiple maps if it can be helped, but there are
some
things you really need r/w maps for, in which case I recommend that they be
identical, so they can be deleted and re-saved easily. I know that for
really
large enterprises this approach does not hold up, and they need the ability
to 'delete from all maps', rather than just 'delete from all submaps' more
than
anyone.  People are making architectural decisions based on the lack of
this little function.

It is probably not as simple as we might think, but I do suggest that you
send
a note to netview AT tivoli DOT com and/or your local Tivoli rep suggesting this
very
thing.


Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit
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"John Creasey" <creasey AT ozemail.com DOT au>@tkg.com on 03/11/2000 06:53:25 AM

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Subject:  RE: [NV-L] NetView

I wonder why nobody has ever thought about adding a menu option
to delete an object properly.  Surely it isnt that hard to do?
Why should a poor user have to trudge around various maps and submaps
deleting objects.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com [mailto:owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com]On Behalf Of
> lclark AT us.ibm DOT com
> Sent: Thursday, 9 March 2000 22:56
> To: NV-L AT tkg DOT com
> Subject: Re:[NV-L] NetView
>
>
>
>
> This happens when you delete something from one map but not
> the other, and is a feature designed to allow you to make different
> views for different users. The ovtopofix command, which you should
> be running periodically, has a '-a' option if you want to put
> everything
> back on all maps, and a '-A' option if you want to preserve the
> differences.
>
> An object must be deleted from both of the maps (all submaps on
> both maps) before it can be rediscovered. So if you have two maps that
> are different and you want them to be different, but you want
> one object
> to appear on both and it is only on one, you must delete it from the
> one where it still appears. Then it will be rediscovered and show up
> on both maps.
>
>
> Cordially,
>
> Leslie A. Clark
> IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
> Detroit
> ======================================================
>
> Hi,
>
> We have two maps, but something objects appear just only one map.
> Can anyone tell me how to place this objects in another map.
>
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
> José Roberto Antunes
>   e-mail: antunes AT telesc.com DOT br


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